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Date:      Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:53:45 +0200
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        John Kozubik <john@kozubik.com>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: How many "production" releases will FreeBSD have when the ZoL merge comes in ?
Message-ID:  <16bdb16ada8.27fa.fa4b1493b064008fe79f0f905b8e5741@Leidinger.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1907091556410.84301@kozubik.com>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1907091556410.84301@kozubik.com>

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Hi,

is using ZoL from ports an option for you?

Bye,
Alexander.

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Am 10. Juli 2019 01:36:02 schrieb John Kozubik <john@kozubik.com>:

> Friends,
>
> I am confused as to how the ZFS On Linux merge will be available before
> 2022.  The current supported release lifecycle page states:
>
> "11.4-RELEASE + 3 months (or September 30, 2021)"
>
> ... and I have heard very pessimistic responses about the ZoL merge going
> into the 12 branch.
>
> So I *think* that one of the following must be true:
>
>
> - We will, at some point, have *three* production branches with -RELEASE
> distributions:  11, 12 and 13.
>
> - ZoL will actually come into the 12 branch, despite recent pessimism.
>
> - Neither of the above: ZoL comes in the 13 branch, which will not overlap
> with the 11 branch, which means (basically) 2022 as the earliest
> production (-RELEASE) version of FreeBSD with ZoL.
>
>
> Some background ...
>
>
> We at rsync.net, which runs exclusively on FreeBSD, are *dying* to get
> native encryption and raw send.  As you can imagine, we can only run
> -RELEASE versions of FreeBSD.
>
> We really want to give Linux users the ability to 'zfs send' to their
> rsync.net accounts like FreeBSD users do, but 13.1-RELEASE[1] is a *long*
> way off - perhaps over three years from now.
>
> Three simultaneous "production" releases seems silly.
>
> So that leaves ZoL coming in the 12 branch as the only outcome that isn't
> terrible news.
>
>
> I wonder if there is any of the above that I am mistaken about, or some
> news I have missed ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Kozubik
>
>
>
> [1] In practice, we also don't run x.0 releases in production which sounds
> bigoted and superstitious but I can point to 5.0-RELEASE and you need no
> further explanation.
>
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