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Date:      Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:43:56 +0100
From:      phk@freebsd.org
To:        "Paul A. Scott" <pscott@skycoast.us>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: revoke(2) redux... 
Message-ID:  <1731.1040741036@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 24 Dec 2002 06:31:59 PST." <BA2DAFDF.17D6B%pscott@skycoast.us> 

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In message <BA2DAFDF.17D6B%pscott@skycoast.us>, "Paul A. Scott" writes:
>> I think you missed the fine point in the "kick everybody *else*
>> off" comment.
>
>Ahhh. I guess you mean that revoke() would change to do that. You're right,
>I did miss your point.
>
>> The point is you cannot serialize against other processes.
>
>But that's the point of serialization. Anyway, if init is the only process
>opening a tty,

revoke is used in most "login daemons", telnetd, getty and elsewhere.

There is no way you can close the race between:

	revoke("/dev/ttyfoo");
and
	open("/dev/ttyfoo");

Not even in init(8).  There is always the risk that another process
opens the device between the two.

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