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Date:      Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:03:27 -0500 (EST)
From:      Wankle Rotary Engine <wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Graphical installations and such...
Message-ID:  <199501080103.UAA05523@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <29796.789524071@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 7, 95 04:14:31 pm

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They say this Jordan K. Hubbard person was kidding when he wrote:
> 
> > Well I think this is the wrong thing to do. It sounds almost like people
> > want to turn FreeBSD into Windoze. Well forget it: that's a horrible idea.
> > FreeBSD (and UNIX in general) is *NOT* Windoze, pure and simple. Don't
> 
> I'm sorry if you got the impression that this was what I had in mind.

No no, I never imagined that at all. :) I have only one point that
I want to clear up:

> 
> > Look: the X server alone is big. The X libraries are big. Statically 
> > linked X binaries are very big. Tck/Tk is big. Just how were you planning 
> > on fitting those big things onto the boot disk, hmmm? Sure, if you mount 
> 
> EASY.  I only use 2GB disks as my boot disks.

Er, no no no. I'm sorry: I should have been clearer. By boot disk, I
meant boot _floppy_. In order to provide a complete graphical install, 
you have to start up X right away, but I can't see how to do that with 
only a floppy install. I can only see two options:

1) Have a text install that partitions the disk and loads the second
   stage install, which can include the X server and whatnot, then
   start the graphical install only after the user boots from the hard
   disk for the first time.

2) Use the boot floppy to mount the CD-ROM as the rootfs, which will
   give you as much space as you need. (But no virtual memory.)

I thought the idea was to dump the user into a graphical install
at step one. I'm just wondering how you plan to do this.

-Bill

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