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Date:      Sat, 1 Apr 1995 13:05:17 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   2-way CTM?
Message-ID:  <199504012105.NAA19694@time.cdrom.com>

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You know, it would be very very cool if Joe Developer sitting out on the
end of a SLIP line could make contributions via a sort of "reverse CTM".

I think we may have even discussed it before.  Are there any plans out there
to do this?  I'd *really* like to make 2.1 as friendly towards developers as
possible, and to me this means both having CTM automagically set up from a menu
that edits /etc/aliases and sends off the subscribe request (some further
thoughts about that in a moment) and having CTM also help you hack
directly on your /usr/src and send the changes automagically back in email
to a submissions list.  You should be able to do something like:

	cd /usr/src/usr.bin/tip
	<hack hack>
	ctm -submit .
	<think think..
	.. some summary lines on what was added/deleted/changed ..
	Sending <n> lines of CTM changes to submissions@FreeBSD.org, are
		you sure? [n] y
	<now we're in ${EDITOR}, looking at a submission form>
	<fill out form, save, exit>

	Mailing...<think>  Thank you for your submission!

All done automagically for you!  Any takers?

Also, back to CTM updates for a moment.  I think these need to be
PGP'd, sequence numbered or simply obfuscated somehow before we go "live"
with CTM.  It's just too easy to hose someone's tree and trojan-horse the
heck out of them by spoofing CTM the way it is now, and we have enough
security hole problems on the Internet without us making more of them.
Anyone want to work on this, too?

I think it's very safe to say that Poul-Henning is kind of out of the picture
on all of this due to impending Paternity, so if this stuff is going to get
done it's going to be because somebody _fresher_ steps into the breach! :-)

Volunteers?  No shoving.. :-)

						Jordan



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