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Date:      Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:44:16 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jim Bryant <jbryant@argus.iadfw.net>
To:        rashid@haven.ios.com (Rashid Karimov.)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: S.O.S -2.1Stable and ASUSP54TP4
Message-ID:  <199508282044.PAA16108@argus.iadfw.net>
In-Reply-To: <199508281445.KAA13236@haven.ios.com> from "Rashid Karimov." at Aug 28, 95 10:45:34 am

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> From: "Rashid Karimov." <rashid@haven.ios.com>
> Subject: S.O.S -2.1Stable and ASUSP54TP4
> To: hackers@freebsd.org
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:45:34 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> 		Hi there folx,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	After having a lot of problems with different
> 	motherboards under FreeBSD I've switched to the
> 	"editor's choice" - ASUS P54TP4 mb.,which was
> 	recommended here by Jordan :)
> 	Few problems went away ( like random reboots and
> 	stuff), but oneremains consistent:

Great motherboard!  I've got one running RELEASE w/o problems using the 
133MHz iron, 32m, Seagate [Barracuda] and Connor 2 Giggers, 
Adaptec 2940-W [PCI], Toshiba 4x CD-ROM [SCSI], Colorado 350 Tape, 
IBM 230M M-O, 1.44M and 2.88M floppies, soundblaster-16, siig hi-irq 4-port 
ISA async card, 3com 3c5x9 ISA ethernet, and ATI Pro-Graphics Turbo Mach64 PCI
video...

The only problems seem to be that startx won't get the X-server running without
a panic unless you are initially logged in as root, su to root creates the 
same panic, and the fact that the boot floppies don't boot period, not even 
the level 1 bootstrap...  Had to load from the CD in DOG.

> 	the freaking system loks each and every day and
> 	I think this is because of .... something related
> 	to HD activity/driver/adapter/whatever.
> 
> 	The system is P90,Adaptec 2940 PCI _SCSI adapter,
> 	SMC EtherPower.
> 
> 
> 	The symptoms:
> 
> 	system locks at random times w/o any messages at the console/
> 	log files. Locks means the system becomes unreachable neither

Are you using non-parity memory?  As you know, memory errors will not trap
unless you are using parity memory.  If you want to use FreeBSD for anything 
other than home-use, I strongly suggest parity memory.  (Get a warrantee!)

> 	from the local net nor from the console
> 	After I hit "reboot" switch, system reboots up to the fsck
> 	level and it starts complaining that it can't read partition
> 	information off the second HDD ( Seagate Barracuda 4 Gb) (!).

Are you properly terminated?  Is the BIOS termination set on/off as 
appropriate?

Another side note, We have many Barracudas that work well, but I have 
personally come across three that either went bad or had to be returned
initially.

> 	If one hits "reboot" again and goes to the Adaptec BIOS and runs
> 	disk utilities --> media check from there - the BIOS (!) complains
> 	that it can not  talk to the second HD.
> 
> 	The problem goes away _only after powercycling the whole PC.
> 	I never saw the stuff like this before ... any suggestions ?
> 	Any bugs in Adaptec BIOSes ? Release numbers ?
> 
> 	I've changed the Adaptecs - just in case... didn't help.
> 	Will try to do the same with Seagate Barracuda ... never
> 	had the problem with 'em before though

I have yet to have a problem with Adaptec in either the 1542CF or the 2940W
controllers.  The ahc driver seems to detect the wide channel just fine, even 
though I haven't got anything connected to it [YET!]...
 
> 
> 	Everything is fine till you don;t have too much activity going
> 	on system. Some of the servers I have here run for months w./o
> 	problems - but they do DNS/WWW/INN stuff.
> 	As soon as you put 3000- 4000 users on the system - that when
> 	the shit begins.
> 
> 	Till now _the most stable version is SNAP back from Feb 95.
> 	It is up for 24 days, runs 4000 account, 50-70 users online.
> 	Bad things about it :
> 	no support for 2940,SMC EtherPower and QUOTAs don't work.
> 

Just reboot it every few days, and replace sendmail with something newer.
the 0210-SNAP was kinda wierd for me...  But then that's with a lot of 
activity.

Looking at the lint file, QUOTA still is tagged saying it's problematic...
I haven't played with 'options QUOTA' for months though...
 
> 	I don't want to get  rid of this perfect test place for FreeBSD
> 	but I  can not stand by PC and wait to reboot it all the time.
> 	Looks to me that no1 runs the FreeBSD in such complex env. so 

I'll take bets on that one...  Buy me a beer :)

> 	I'd like to be able to continue this, but there is always a
> 	limit :(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	Rashid


The best thing I can recommend is to check the cabling and termination on
the drives...  is the barracuda on the end of the scsi chain?  I can help
you if you don't have the drive termination right on that one [I don't have 
docs for the connor jumpers].

Jim
-- 
All opinions expressed are mine, if you   | "I will not be pushed, stamped,
think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or
radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!!     | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner"
    jbryant@argus.iadfw.net, Sr. System/Network Admin, Internet America



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