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Date:      Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:51:03 +0000 ()
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        scrappy@hub.org (Marc G. Fournier)
Cc:        ejc@gargoyle.bazzle.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ACER Motherboard: SCSI Recommendations?
Message-ID:  <199512141551.PAA25531@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.951213224151.2892C-100000@hub.org> from "Marc G. Fournier" at Dec 13, 95 11:02:33 pm

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Marc G. Fournier stands accused of saying:
> > > 	Now, a friend of mine talked about the NCR PCI controllers
> > > that are relatively cheap (~$100), but he mentioned that they work
> > > particularly good on an ASUS motherboard...
> > > 
> > 	I don't think your motherboard has NCR bios built in, so you
> > could not use the ASUS NCR scsi card.  Acculogic makes a NCR 53c825

Are you sure of this?  I'd be really inclined to at least _try_ (if possible)
before committing. 

> > card which is SCSI-II Fast/Wide and has the bios onboard.  I have
> > used this card without any problems, with FreeBSD 2.0, 2.0.5, 2.1.0.
> > This card sells for about $129 at NECX.
> >
> 
> 	Okay, price is good...but...do I need special hard drives?  I
> hate to say it, but I really don't know what the various types of SCSI 
> are :(  

Nope.

> 	These are the drives I'm running right now.  They all come
> up as SCSI-2, but that's about the only information that I have on
> them...will they support Fast/Wide?  If not, is there another
> NCR PCI SCSI controller that I can use that will support these
> drives?  Right now, I'm hanging off of an Adaptec 1542 controller...

They should all work just fine.

> 	Then again, am I reading "Fast/Wide" wrong?  Should I be
> reading it as "Fast *or* Wide"?  Cause, looking at Quantum's Home
> Page, the LPS340S supports Fast, but it doesn't mentioned Wide..

"Fast" is a prerequisite for any new disk; "wide" means the controller
has the extra bits required to talk to a "wide" SCSI device, should you
wish to connect one.

> 	And, finally...is there anyone out there from the Toronto
> area that would know where I can find said controller?  I'd prefer
> somewhere local, if at all possible...

Just about anyone should be able to point you at an NCR controller; one 
caveat, be _VERY_ sure it has _active_, not _passive_ termination onboard.

If you want to look at one to verify this for yourself, the little resistor
packs should have '111' on them, but _not_ "221331" or "220/330" or similar.

If there aren't any resistor packs, then you either have no termination, or
you have active (and possibly automatic) termination.

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