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Date:      Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:51:02 +1030 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        jmb@FreeBSD.org (Jonathan M. Bresler)
Cc:        wes@intele.net, questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: delays in ppp solved
Message-ID:  <199601180521.PAA05556@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960117202849.18254B-100000@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 17, 96 08:33:08 pm

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Jonathan M. Bresler stands accused of saying:
> 
> > Even cheese-less modems will cause some delay, as they have to pause
> > and accumulate enough of the incoming data stream to determine that
> > compression won't be effective.  Since this process is re-started
> > each time the communications "turn around", i.e. at each window turn
> > for ftp, these small pauses add up over a long transfer.

This shows somewhat of a failure to understand how windowed protocols 
work. 8(

> 	hmmm.....modem makers dont know how to buffer?  data coming in, 
> data getting compressed, data going out.   no more data coming in?  just 
> shove out whatever we got.  how slow do you think the processors in 
> modems are?  some have 68030's inside.  give em ram, rom and mechanicals 
> and you got decent laser printers :)

Er.  Most 'cheap' modems have 8-bit microcontrollers (Z180/8051) in them.
I've been told of cases where, to obtain the desired throughput, vendors
have skimped on the compression (the hard side of the pair) so that
the processor could keep up.

> Jonathan M. Bresler        FreeBSD Postmaster         jmb@FreeBSD.ORG

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