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Date:      Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:17:28 -0500
From:      dennis@etinc.com (dennis)
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Dennis' Behavior (was Re: Multi-Port Async Cards) 
Message-ID:  <199601291717.MAA12052@etinc.com>

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>> There are incredible inconsistancies in the "focus" of the core team, and if 
>
>Dennis,
>
>Our "focus" is driven largely by what people do for us.  A bunch of
>hackers in Germany decide they want ISDN, they hack on it.  I have a
>vested interest, being an ISDN user myself, and so perhaps I talk
>about it a little more.  An incorrect focus?  I don't think so.  I
>think this is just the natural brownian motion that accompanies any
>group of volunteers.  People do what they WANT to do.

Yes, but there is also a constant buzz on getting "exposure" via 
magazine articles, "spreading the word", and several discussions
about  "support" networks for FreeBSD...so I don't necessarily buy
the argument that FreeBSD is just a toy for its contributors. 

>
>As to the focus on serial drivers in general, you're pretty wrong if
>you think they're not important to us or that we haven't spent a lot
>of time trying to improve the situation.  At least 3 core members have
>spent quite a bit of time with Cyclades in ironing out support for
>their cards, I've got about 27 calls into Digiboard which have failed
>to net much support, and I was the one pushing aggressively for ARNET
>(now Digi) support and got John Hay the boards he used to do the port.

I didnt say that....but why then should there even be mention of something
as childish as a "ban" (like I couldn't find my way back in) by asking a
question about the status of such work?

>
>In comparison to what I've focused on with the rest of the system, I'd
>say that multiport serial cards have occupied more of my time than
>anything else.

I didnt know this...thats why I asked.....

>
>Like many things, we need help.  Since you're making money off of us
>now, perhaps you'd consider a donation?  The full details on how to do
>this are in http://www.freebsd.org/submitters.html.  We can always use
>hardware or funds to buy hardware in expanding our support for all
>types of peripherals.  It's a two-way street, Dennis!

Horsehockey! I'm making money selling communication cards, the driver for
which I've spent many thousands of hours with no  help from any of you.  I make
NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH on FreeBSD...I sell routers at ZERO profit as a service
to my board customers. Frankly I could make a lot more selling LINUX, but
Ive always
put my own opinion ahead of my wallet.  We simply have different
philosophies on how
to earn a living (you draw a salary, dont you?). I feel that in order to
make my product as 
good as it can be I have to spend 100% of my time on it. Which means that I
cant do it
if I have a job...so this is my job. .I buy myself a job just like all of
you that make money consulting
on what you learn from your work here. Id contribute if I had the
time....but I dont.

BTW...I seem to remember offering you hardware for free on more than one
occasion...and
you declined......if you had a game plan you'd probably get a lot more
donations....but as you 
said, you work on whatever you want...and who's gonna pay for that?

Dennis
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