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Date:      Sat, 25 May 1996 00:50:11 +0200 (SAT)
From:      Robert Nordier <rnordier@iafrica.com>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Cc:        stephen@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk, terry@lambert.org
Subject:   Re: editors
Message-ID:  <199605242250.AAA02601@eac.iafrica.com>
In-Reply-To: <199605242000.NAA01650@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at May 24, 96 01:00:24 pm

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> 
> > > Gotta get those new user up to speed on pipes and redirection
> > > right off the bat!
> > 
> > Huh!  Mere child's tools.  I vote we ought to give them just a disk
> > sector editor.  After all, any self-respecting hacker ought to be able
> > to edit files by writing the disk format directly! :-)
> 
> Luxury!
> 
> Why, I remember installing Ultrix on a non-DEC drive using only
> my bare hands and "dd"...

Hmm.  Half the trouble with the whole 'editors' thread is that
people simply aren't digging deep enough to recall some of the
really hairy, insane, and plain disgusting text editors around.

If is all very well for some to dismiss 'vi' as an abomination,
but....

Anyone with a VMS background remember TECO?

Sample TECO command sequence:

   [1 J ^P $ L $ $ J <.-Z; .,(S,$ -D .)FX1 @F^B $K :L I $ G1 L>$$

The really neat thing about TECO is that pretty much any arbitrary
ASCII string is a TECO program that actually does something.  So
if you get bored _editing_ your text, you can always relieve the
monotony by _running_ it instead.  (Try doing that in MS-Word....)

Start 'em off with TECO.  Having mastered that, they'll be saying,
"Gee, I didn't know UNIX itself would be so easy...."

--
Robert Nordier



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