Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:31:12 +0100 (MET) From: sos@FreeBSD.org To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Who needs Perl? We do! Message-ID: <199611211531.QAA01142@ravenock.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <l03010602aeba112be0c7@[208.2.87.4]> from "Richard Wackerbarth" at Nov 21, 96 08:29:05 am
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In reply to Richard Wackerbarth who wrote:
>
> As for the "core team" wishing to cop-out on keeping things up-to-date,
> they need to open their eyes. The SYSTEM is much more than the "core".
> L***us has good control on the "core" of that system. However, many of the
> distributions are weak because the group compiling a distribution does a
> poor job on the rest of it. We don't want to fall into the same boat. I
> think that it is ESSENTIAL that we keep the quality of the distribution
> high. That means that everyone who contributes to the distribution must
> work as a team. Those who think that they can ignore the rest of the
> problem simply by calling themselves "core" are wearing blinders. IMHO,
> they are also working against "team spirit" by separating themselves from
> the rest.
Am I hearing a volounteer here ??
The reason I am picky about what goes in and what does not, is simply
that core is the entity that is going to get blamed/flamed/kicked when
things are not up to snuff. There is only so much we can have on
our platters, if things are not going to melt down. I (me personally)
think we have reached if not exceeded that limit allready, and getting
even more things into the game, be it small things or huge systems
need a _LOT_ of consideration.
What we should do is delegate _RESPONSIBILITY_ of certain areas of
the system (ports is sortof allready delegated) to individuals or
groups that take this _SERIOUSLY_ and does a job at it.
Now the problem is to find these individuals or groups, as each
time it gets to that, all of a sudden NOBODY is left of the
horde that screamed for some or other feature.
I know most of you have fulltime jobs etc etc, but so does most
of core, we just do it because its fun, and because we think it
should be done, but _DONT_ blame us for not doing enough already,
that gets you in my black book real fast :(
I have a very good example, I stated some month back that I'd
take reponsibility of the atapi/ide driver and do a rewrite,
because there was ALOT of talk about how miserable our current
implementation was. I also stated that in order to do that I
needed some samples of atapi/ide equipment as I dont have the
funding for doing that (and given I had I'd buy SCSI :) )
but I didn't get ONE single reponse of that kind, no sir, but
I got alot of "let me test it, gimme, gimme, gimme".
So there you are, as long as I keep giving out of my resources
everything is fine, but when I ask for help, be it equipment
or programmer time, there's complete silence.
So... when you guys come tell me I'm not doing enough, or not
doing it right, and should do more, but dont want to participate
except as consumers, well.....
Am I hearing a volounteer here ??
or is there silence again this time ??
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Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team
Even more code to hack -- will it ever end
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