Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 14:19:16 -0800 From: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) To: dyson@freebsd.org Cc: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com, thorpej@nas.nasa.gov, davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu, jkh@time.cdrom.com, dennis@etinc.com, kpneal@pobox.com, hackers@freebsd.org, torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi, lm@relay.engr.SGI.COM, iain@sbs.de, sparclinux@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: TCP/IP bandwidth bragging Message-ID: <199612032219.OAA22523@neteng.engr.sgi.com>
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: > Hey, John, take the high road. : > : I have been. Now the gloves are off :-). Exactly what was it about my comment that you took as an indication that you need to take the gloves off? Sheesh. Try and be a little less touchy. : > You've heard the old saying: numbers : > talk, bullshit walks. : > : > ...Various other pieces of drivel from a drooler... : > (this is only meant as a touche for the above insult) My, my. You sure are sensitive. When I wrote that, my thinking was it was *Linux* that was the bullshit, not FreeBSD. Because of all your claims that FreeBSD is better *for real applications*. Obviously, you took it that I was insulting FreeBSD. Far from it, it was crediting FreeBSD with better performance and suggesting that you shut up the nay sayers by providing the data that shows your claim to be true. As the old commercial goes: Where's the beef? Don't fill my mailbox with flames, fill it with test programs (or real application suites) that show FreeBSD to be better. I can easily believe that you have real applications that perform better under FreeBSD - so what are they? : I have stated that your lmbench benchmarks DO NOT SHOW APPLICATION : PERFORMANCE... Who's talking about lmbench? Not me. I'm asking you, listen carefully, to produce benchmark, it can be anything you want, you write it or an application that your users run, whatever, that runs better under FreeBSD. What does that have to do with lmbench? Nothing. I'm asking you to show off your OS where it shines the brightest. I'm not trying to insult you, patronize you, or in any way show you to be anything negative. I'm asking you to show us all a place where you did something better than the rest of us. Reread that last bit. I'm not saying "Hey, John, you big twit, my dick is bigger than yours". I'm not saying "FreeBSD sucks". I'm not saying anything negative, so don't take it that way. I am saying "I believe that FreeBSD does some stuff better than Linux and I believe that you can prove it. I'd like to see you do so. I'd like to learn what you did that is so great because I might learn something." There is nothing negative, implicit or explicit, in that statement. Stop looking for slams - they aren't there. Instead, show up with the data that says "FreeBSD can support 10 zillion web hits a day and Linux can't - here is the benchmark that proves it". Or whatever else it is that you think is important. Here's your chance to prove how good FreeBSD is. So just do it.
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