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Date:      Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:06:24 -0600 (CST)
From:      Karl Denninger  <karl@Mcs.Net>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        karl@Mcs.Net, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Karl fulminates, film at 11.
Message-ID:  <199702051806.MAA06750@Jupiter.Mcs.Net>
In-Reply-To: <19962.855163686@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Feb 5, 97 09:28:06 am

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> > Mail sent to an open mailing list is not private.
> 
> But the mail I sent to you which you forwarded was.  

No.  It was sent to an open mailing list.  As for *paraphrasing* private
mail, that's permitted under fair use.  Don't like it?  Then don't send me
email.  That's only a 200-year or so old point which people have had to live
with in every other media.  It applies here.

> with a paste-in from one of my *private* messages to you.  

Again, short excerpts and paraphrases are perfectly fine in any area.

> I will have some commits to the handbook shortly which make it
> clear just what will and what will not be tolerated on our mailing
> lists.
> 
> 					Jordan

If free discourse is in any way restricted then we're done.

Would you like me to post what Tom Ptaeck sent to me regarding WHY he took
the stance he did, and what he intends to do in the future with regards to
FreeBSD security issues?

He's already sent that to the core team as well -- or are you conveniently
ignoring the fact that due to the way the talkd bug was MIShandled (in his
opinion) he's now going to go open-season IMMEDIATELY on all FreeBSD
security issues?

Further, you folks have NOT addressed the true problem -- which is the
entire setlocale() code turn.  That needs to be ripped out WHOLESALE 
until it can be combed through and ALL unbounded manipulation replaced.

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