Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 14:53:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Sascha Blank <blank@sliphost37.uni-trier.de> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt <sos@sos.freebsd.dk> Cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey), gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org, postmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ctm Message-ID: <199705301253.OAA04727@sliphost37.uni-trier.de> In-Reply-To: <199705300624.IAA03466@sos.freebsd.dk> References: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970529234559.364C-100000@Journey2.mat.net> <199705300624.IAA03466@sos.freebsd.dk>
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>>>>> "Søren" == Søren Schmidt writes:
Søren> But your problems wont end there :(
Søren> It seems the CTM generation has halted, there hasn't been a
Søren> delta for 48 hours now. The machine that normally carries the
Søren> masters shrimp.dataplex.net has vanished from the net, so has
Søren> Mr Wackerbart it seems (or his mailaacount on dataplex.net
Søren> has been closed) as he doesn't respond to mail (yet).
First of all to stand up for Richard: About a week ago his father had
to be hospitalized and since then circumstances force him to let his
machines run without his personal administration. He promised me to
join the crowd again as soon as things have settled down a bit (I
don't know when this will be). I am sure he would have chosen an
alternative if he had been able to. So, everyone who has sent him
mail, have some more patience please.
The "dissolvance" of the dataplex.net domain origins from another
phenomenon. I did a traceroute to his site (208.2.87.3 if you want to
try for yourself), and this is what I've got:
1 Cisco (136.199.8.33) 4 ms 0 ms 4 ms
2 LanWanGate (136.199.224.2) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
3 XLink (136.199.1.41) 12 ms 12 ms 8 ms
4 WAN-Trier-Saarbruecken.novocomp.de (194.120.166.2) 23 ms 16 ms 20 ms
5 kbs.core.xlink.net (194.122.226.2) 31 ms 23 ms 35 ms
6 karlsruhe.core.xlink.net (194.122.227.85) 20 ms 35 ms 23 ms
7 frankfurt.core.xlink.net (194.122.225.42) 16 ms 66 ms 39 ms
8 Vienna2.VA.US.EU.net (134.222.19.1) 148 ms 156 ms 164 ms
9 Pennsauken1.NJ.US.EU.net (134.222.228.2) 156 ms 160 ms 164 ms
10 2-sprint-nap.internetmci.net (192.157.69.48) 180 ms 168 ms 148 ms
11 core2-hssi2-0.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.1.49) 164 ms 172 ms 156 ms
12 core2.Dallas.mci.net (204.70.4.69) 227 ms 246 ms 219 ms
13 border6-fddi-0.Dallas.mci.net (204.70.114.66) 203 ms 215 ms 219 ms
14 amicus-networks.Dallas.mci.net (204.70.147.70) 207 ms * 211 ms
15 10.1.1.3 (10.1.1.3) 230 ms 187 ms 187 ms
After hop 15 the connections seems to be broken as it times out. Now
as our DNS can't reach their DNS, it looks like their domain has
vanished from the face of the earth. Another side effect is that I
can't send him any mail, and everybody within dataplex.net is likely
to be unable to reach anybody outside. This includes any CTM delta of
course. I have experienced similar cases in the past where entire
domains vanished and reappeared the next day as if there had never
been any problems before. To come to the point, I think this is just a
(though very bad) case of a network problem which will hopefully be
solved very very soon.
Søren> I think we should try find CTM a new home, it has been much
Søren> to unreliable lately. What does it take ?? a few gigs of disk
Søren> and a machine with resonable connectivity ??
Søren, I think you are blaming the wrong guy. Since Richard has taken
over the CTM production it is working like a charm (Poul-Henning, this
is in no way an offence against you). What has caused Richard grief
and what has finally led to the direct CTM link from his site to mine
is the fact that the _distribution_ of the deltas breaks down from
time to time for reasons that are out of his scope. I can judge this
well because everytime people complain about a missing delta is has
always found its way to our ftp site (maybe it's because we are
deliberartely bypassing freebsd.org).
Therefore we should consider changing something about the
distribition, not the generation. A possible solution would be to move
the distribution lists to another site, preferable in another
domain. I'm sure if someone wants to step in Richard will provide
him/her with any help he can offer (and a direct CTM feed of
course). I known from past discussions with Richard that has wants
these problems to be solved as soon as anybody else does.
Sascha Blank, CTM-submeister
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