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Date:      Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:21:47 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        pechter@lakewood.com
Cc:        nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Sysadmin levels today?
Message-ID:  <199707310251.MAA25263@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199707301751.NAA16509@i4got.lakewood.com> from Bill Pechter at "Jul 30, 97 01:51:44 pm"

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Bill Pechter stands accused of saying:
> Re: the current state of the industry:
> 
> > Ahh, but you assume that we haven't ever seen [name withheld] before.
> > Unfortunately, his behavior is 'typical', in that he wants us to do all
> > his research and work for him, rather than him spending the time to do
> > his own work.  He also shows a complete lack of interest in finding out
> > solutions to his own problems.
> > 
> > I've dealt with him too many times over the last 2 years to have
> > anything but pity on any company he works for, since he will require
> > hand-holding and doesn't do anything on his own.
...
> Isn't the above the current state of the business.

Yes.

> I see a problem in the current state of the the art in Sysadmin-hood.
> I just went on a job interview this morning (headhunter) where I was 
> asked if I know how to tune a kernel. 

Aigh!

> Boy, I'm tired of watching the CNE, MSCNE types around work be unable to fix
> stuff without forty phone calls to tech support.  
> Is the Sun/SCO/AIX certification process any better than Novell's paper CNEs?

I went on a support call this morning, for a mail gateway/web proxy I
installed a couple of weeks back.  The customer in question is a
software development house; the BSD system is in a room full of
Decstations and SCO boxen on which they do their work.

I spent an hour of my time, as well as that of three of their
developers and one of the directors teaching them :

	How to edit the /etc/aliases file to forward mail.

Unbelievable.

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