Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:52:26 +1000 (EST) From: Darren Reed <darrenr@cyber.com.au> To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more struct ifnet move lossage. Message-ID: <199710221352.XAA07214@plum.cyber.com.au> In-Reply-To: <199710221334.XAA01019@word.smith.net.au> from "Mike Smith" at Oct 22, 97 11:04:13 pm
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In some mail I received from Mike Smith, sie wrote > > > In some mail I received from Mike Smith, sie wrote > > > > > > > I'm curious...does tcpdump still compile on -current, `out of the box' ? > > > > > > src/usr.sbin/tcpdump, src/contrib/tcpdump. And look ma, no diffs. > > > > No, I mean get tcpdump from ftp.ee.lbl.gov and compile that (3.4a5). > > 10:1 it doesn't compile (I'll put money on it :-). > > You don't appear to understand. That *is* what's in src/contrib/ > tcpdump. Try it yourself: You've missed the point totally of what I originally said and that is that tcpdump no longer compiles "out of the box". "out of the box" means ftp'ing it from LBL, not using what's in src/contrib/tcpdump. Or do you want to debate about that too ? What's in src/contrib/tcpdump is the LBL tcpdump PLUS FreeBSD compatibility hacks. Do you want to disagree on that ? > # cd /usr/src/contrib/tcpdump > # cvs diff -u -r LBL > > Note that having the repo lets you see these things. If you check the > logs, you will see that it is a virgin LBL tcpdump, at revision 3.3. > > So what does this mean? Probably that LBL write better code than you > do, I guess. # cvs diff -u -r LBL | grep if_var.h cvs diff: Diffing . cvs diff: tag LBL is not in file FREEBSD-upgrade cvs diff: tag LBL is not in file nfs.h +#include <net/if_var.h> cvs diff: Diffing lbl There - that's my point. More crapola because of it being moved. There is no such include in 3.4a5. cripes...I thought this was going to be simple and not a debate about what's in src/contrib/tcpdump vs what is in the tcpdump.tar.gz people ftp from LBL! > > > All of Terry's comments on a procedural interface are 100% on the mark. > > > If you don't like the grief that the structure changes are causing you, > > > now is the time to participating in producing a *BETTER* interface. > > > > Well, I didn't know they even existed until this nasty little thread... > > maybe I'm just not on the right freebsd email lists where these sort of > > things are announced and discussed. > > Um, as a committer you can't avoid receiving all the commit messages. > Dump the ones that don't affect you, and just keep an eye on the ones > that do. There's been slow change and declaration of intent in there > for many months now. Sorry, I don't keep months worth of cvs commit messages in my head or on disk. I just scan things for relevance to myself, which is usually limited to reading the subject line :) But CVS commit messages do not make a discussion or announcement...(to me anyway).
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