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Date:      Sun, 02 Nov 1997 13:25:56 +1030
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        "Jamil J. Weatherbee" <jamil@trojanhorse.ml.org>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 7400 gates effected by probe routine 
Message-ID:  <199711020255.NAA00542@word.smith.net.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 01 Nov 1997 13:53:05 -0800." <Pine.BSF.3.96.971101134241.459A-100000@trojanhorse.ml.org> 

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> During a device probing routine I noticed that it is possible for the
> outputs of two 7400 TTL gates one in the high state and one in the low
> state to be connected together for not more than 10 microseconds.  I was
> looking at a transistor level diagram of a 7400 and would like to verify
> the following.  That this should not damage the gate itself, just pull
> about 10 times the normal current. I don't see anyway to get around this
> without just removing the probe routine.  

Jamil, during the "probing routine" it is more likely that crazed mice 
will be copulating on your motherboard than that two 7400 devices will 
actually be present in your system, let alone have their outputs in 
contention.

Can you perhaps clarify the realities of the situation and what the 
actual problem that you believe that you have is?

mike






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