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Date:      Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:40:09 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey)
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, gdk@ccomp.inode.COM, jkh@time.cdrom.COM, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: mv /usr/src/games /dev/null - any objections?
Message-ID:  <199711050140.SAA02677@usr02.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <19971105105542.14468@lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Nov 5, 97 10:55:42 am

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> > They mumble at you like they mumbled at Jordan, and they're in
> > your competition space.
> 
> That's like saying you can find bugs in code because they cause
> SIGSEGVs.

Welcome to "Introduction to Fuzzy Sets, 101".  That's a good
analogy, in fact, since you *can* find bugs after the fact by
looking at the stack traceback from the core.


> > Doesn't Walnut Creek or FreeBSD, Inc. have a lawyer on retainer
> > who is at least willing to test the water with an "Apple vs. Apple"
> > citation in a response letter?
> 
> I don't know, but I'm sure he would want money on a per-case basis.
> Are you prepared to front it up?  

Do you know what a "retainer" is?  It's what you pay a lawyer to
do minimal work for you on an "as needed" basis so that you don't
have to pay him money on a case-by-case basis.


> I agree with Jordan that we want to avoid legal hassles wherever
> possible.  I get the impression that he's going overboard in throwing
> out all games, but I don't care too much, especially if they're
> available as ports.

US politicians negotiate after terrorist kidnappings.

Israeli politicians bomb terrorists families in retribution after
terrorist kidnappings.

Guess which country has fewer citizens held hostage at any one time?


If you bend over for jerks, you only make yourself a target for more
jerks.

Besides, I don't think their lawyers honestly understand the situation,
and rather than setting a *bad* precedent, it's worth one letter
attempting to clarify their understanding, and preclude similar
situations in the future.

I can't believe that *no one else* thinks that it's a *terrible* thing
to tacitly confirm that the FreeBSD program name space equals the US
trademark name space?!?  Or that this posit is even *capable* of being
*in any way* true?!?


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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