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Date:      Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:27:21 -0800
From:      "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" <michaelv@MindBender.serv.net>
To:        Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu@cdsnet.net>
Cc:        Remy NONNENMACHER <remy@synx.com>, Stephen Ritter <t_sritte@qualcomm.com>, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ASUS P2L97DS 
Message-ID:  <199802260527.VAA00950@MindBender.serv.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 25 Feb 98 20:11:35 -0800. <Pine.NEB.3.95.980225200848.25932A-100000@mail.cdsnet.net> 

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>On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Remy NONNENMACHER wrote:
>> Yes. There is only one problem: multiples 2940 cards are 
>> initialized/probed by the bios in different order than the one during the
>> FreeBSD boot probing. This gave me good time when the 'bios boot' disk 
>> were the last one seen by the kernel !!... By inverting cards, cables 
>> and so on, i got the 'bios boot' disk as sd0. (I run 2x2940 each for 4x9Gb 
>> disks and use the internal 7880 for DLT, CD-RW and tapes All works great).

>I complained about this a long time ago, and I was informed it was a
>"feechur", and that the DOS way was completely wrong, and the FreeBSD
>solution was superior.
[...]
>I still think the FreeBSD way is broke.  NT can figure it out, Windows can
>figure it out, Solaris gets it the same way, but then there's FreeBSD out
>on the fringe.  Right, but difficult to use.

Uh, to be honest, this isn't necessarily true.

I haven't seen this happen with 2940s, but I *have* seen it happen
with multiple NCR53c810 cards.  DOS saw them in the order the BIOS
decided they should be probed, which was high address card first, then
the lower one.

Not only did *BSD get it the other way around, but so did Windows NT.
It was annoying as hell.  But in this case, *both* *BSD and NT got it
"right", and DOS got it "wrong".  I don't remember how Windows 95
handled the situation (I probably didn't even have it on any of those
machines).

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