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Date:      Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:10:59 +0100
From:      Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr (Pierre Beyssac)
To:        jkh@FreeBSD.ORG (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty), current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: my worldstone
Message-ID:  <19980312151059.HP44817@mars.hsc.fr>
In-Reply-To: <1834.889669810@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mar 11, 1998 18:30:10 -0800
References:  <199803120147.RAA01017@rah.star-gate.com> <1834.889669810@time.cdrom.com>

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According to Jordan K. Hubbard:
> I know, but the real problem here is that people are still comparing
> this "worldstone" figure in the same way they'd compare dhrystones or
> xstones or whatever and ultimately people are going to be making
> hardware decisions based on those numbers.  It's no use saying now
> foolish such a practice is, it's simply inevitable - *people like
> numbers*. :-)

There are two reasons why people do these worldstones:

	(1) compare hardware
	(2) compare system configuration tweaks, or other software
	    improvements (different compilers, for example)

As long as people keep changing their system config (including removing
huge steps of the make world process) to improve their compile time,
there's absolutely no point in comparing anything about hardware.

Most people posting their results here want (and do) (2) on their own
system, and they end up comparing (1) on the list. IMHO this makes no
sense.

> 4. -pipe must be added to CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf.  *no other build
>    optimizations or omissions can be done!*  Same goes for additions -
>    no kerberos bits enabled.

IMHO absolutely no change should be made regarding make world by anybody
wanting to compare times with each other. Why not directly include -pipe
in the official make.conf if that is so useful?
-- 
Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr

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