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Date:      Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:24:15 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Frank Pawlak <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        dwilde1@ibm.net
Cc:        fpawlak@execpc.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com
Subject:   Re: Promoting FreeBSD - the user's piece of the action.
Message-ID:  <199804130524.AAA02877@darkstar.connect.com>
In-Reply-To: <353195BB.CF72D4E4@ibm.net>

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Don,

I think I owe you and everyone on the group an appology.  I hammered
you and I was clearly out of line.  I got your last post and now I
realize that you were being funny, and I have made an ass out of mysef.
 I hope you'll forgive and remain with the project.  I should have seen
 that you were pulling my chain.  Untill I get to know you guys, make
 your humor obvious, and for my part I promise to hold fire and wait to
 see what is really going on.

To one and all, please accept my most sincere appologies.

Frank



On 12 Apr, Don Wilde wrote:
> Frank Pawlak wrote:
> 
> 
>> As for me, my background has primarily been in project management,
>> consulting, and tangible and intangible sales all in computer related
>> activities.  I am self taught in UNIX and by no means an expert. Thus I
>> am volunteering to work as one of the coordinators of project
>> positioning or what the hell ever we end up calling this phase of the
>> project.
>> 
>> Jordan, I understand that you are very busy, but I think that we'll
>> need you as an informal advisor at least untill we get on our feet on
>> the  ground a little bit.  Your name fills the slot as the project PR
>> guy and am sure you have strong feelings as to project direction, image
>> etc., so I defer to you on some of these issues.  I have read the
>> information on the project from the web site and have a feel for some
>> of this stuff.  I would invite all volunteers, especially those
>> writting press releases and advertising things to digest this and pass
>> it on to those people that you are working with.
>> 
>> Appears to me that there are many issues that need to be addressed
>> before we go running off half cocked an waisting motion through
>> duplication of effort and so forth.  At this point we have resources:
>> our time, a top notch develop team, the best version of UNIX -- oops
>> sorry SCO I didn't say that -- and a web site with much good
>> information, and there are commercial publications devoted to Berkeley
>> UNIX and greg's The Complete FreeBSD.
> 
> And these incredible mailing lists. Usenet is a zoo, but these -- I
> think -- are the key to FreeBSD's success. Start a
> freebsd-plug@freebsd.org list, and maybe Jordan and DG and some of the
> other core guys can give us some insight as to how they run core from
> all over the world.
>> 
>> There are legal and private entities that we have to interface with.  I
>> believe that FreeBSD is incorporated as is Walnut Creek CDROM  We don;t
> 
> I think it is very important for FreeBSD, Inc.'s incorporation to be
> switched to 501c3, not just so we who contribute can get a writeoff, but
> it's in a legal way kind of like releasing your source code. It's also a
> vehicle for encouraging _more_ contributions, perhaps providing more of
> what Greg's thinking of without promising anything except what we've
> got... the best thing in x86 computing.
> 
>> Along with this I am asking those that have posted their ideas to come
>> forth and at least set out their skills inventory and what they can and
>> would like to do.  Time commitments at this point at least are open to
>> your individual capabilities.  I have retained your messages as some of
>> you had already appeard to commit to certain actions.  That response is
>> extremely encouraging.
>> 
> Awwww, gee. Big Bro da boss be watching. Yes, teacher, I wrote my
> assignment.
> 
>> So far we have a great start.  Yes we do need more help.  You folks
>> that live in countries other than the United States your help is
>> especially important.  You will be helping the FreeBSD project that is
>> true, but you will also be spreading the word to your countryman who
>> hunger for technology, that FreeBSD is the best platform to use to
>> learn system software, provide internet access service, and as a
>> development platform.  Documentation on how to install and setup an
>> operating system needs to be written in native languages.  Your efforts
>> will improve the lives of people all over the world through helping
>> them to obtain and learn to use modern technology.
> 
> Guys like Ruslan and Amancio and so many others add a life to this
> project that I see makes it one of the best things America has _ever_
> done for the world. <libertarian plug>And it has nothing to do with the
> government!!!</plug> It no longer belongs to America. It is of the
> world.
> 
> 				Don
> 
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