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Date:      Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:32:22 -0400 (EDT)
From:      woods@zeus.leitch.com (Greg A. Woods)
To:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Using MD5 insted of DES for passwd ecnryption 
Message-ID:  <199804211532.LAA22702@brain.zeus.leitch.com>
In-Reply-To: Mike Smith's message of "Tue, April 21, 1998 05:59:33 -0700" regarding "Re: Using MD5 insted of DES for passwd ecnryption " id <199804211259.FAA00330@antipodes.cdrom.com>
References:  <19980421124954.A1797@keltia.freenix.fr> <199804211259.FAA00330@antipodes.cdrom.com>

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[ On Tue, April 21, 1998 at 05:59:33 (-0700), Mike Smith wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: Using MD5 insted of DES for passwd ecnryption 
>
> As soon as you have more than one *different* binary running out of 
> /bin, you win of course, as there's only *one* copy (at most) of the
> common shared libraries being backed by physical memory.

That's not necessarily true, at least from what I've learned second
hand.  There can be a certain amount of overhead in terms of extra VM
pages allocated for shared memory, so one additional shared binary may
still not result in even reaching the same memory footprint as the same
fully static binaries would.  It would depend on the relative amounts of
the shared libraries that each given binary might link in.

In any case I'd be horrified to learn that whatever scheme of
controlling password encryption is chosen relies on shared libraries.
I think it should always be possible to statically link the whole system
if one so desires.  That's the one sure way to test if shared libraries
are causing any weirdness.

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							Greg A. Woods

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