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Date:      Thu, 14 May 1998 08:47:14 +0300
From:      Alexander Litvin <archer@lucky.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: daemons exiting on signal 11
Message-ID:  <19980514084714.18350@carrier.kiev.ua>
In-Reply-To: <199805140302.UAA04302@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Thu, May 14, 1998 at 03:02:08AM %2B0000
References:  <19980513093110.21002@carrier.kiev.ua> <199805140302.UAA04302@usr08.primenet.com>

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On Thu, May 14, 1998 at 03:02:08AM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > I thought the problem has gone. But yesterday trying to test
> > new softupdates patches, I loaded my machine with 'make -j64
> > buildworld', and at some point cron started to exit with SIGSEGV.
> > After makeworld finished problem with cron didn't disappear,
> > so I needed to restart cron :-\
> 
> For readers who might have been alarmed by this:
> 
> Note that this is not indicative of a problem in the soft updates
> code.  This means that he was out of swap + RAM, and when cron
> went to get a page, it was denied, and could not continue to run.

Well, I'm not blaming softupdates in this case. But still, problem
exists.

May be I was not clear: cron _didn't_ exit with SIGSEGV, it continued
to run. But it was unable to fork to run cron jobs. I noticed that
after some 10 hours (I'm on dialup, and I just saw no attempts of
my machine to dial to get mail).

Note: 'make buildworld' had already been finished for some 4 hours,
but cron still was in that strange state: running, but all attempts
to fork to run some jobs failed:

May 13 08:50:00 grape /kernel: pid 22955 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11
May 13 08:55:00 grape /kernel: pid 22969 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11
May 13 08:55:00 grape /kernel: pid 22970 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11

The same was with sendmail (in fact because of this my original letter,
which I had written in the morning, remained in queue till evening).

I can imagine what happenes. And I'm not absolutely shure that it is an
error, just would like to hear some authoritative opinion ;)

> 
> 
> 					Terry Lambert
> 					terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.

Alexander Litvin

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