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Date:      Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:36:10 +1000 (EST)
From:      Ada <ada@noether.lab.usyd.edu.au>
To:        sue@welearn.com.au (Sue Blake)
Subject:   Re: 2.2.6 CD-ROM : Package dependencies up the creek ?
Message-ID:  <199806210937.TAA19251@noether.blah.org>
In-Reply-To: From Sue Blake at "Jun 17, 98 01:00:14 am"

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> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:00:14 +1000
> From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
> Subject: Re: 2.2.6 CD-ROM : Package dependencies up the creek ?

> On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 04:20:51AM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> > Some packages are useful to have right away.  I've done nearly a dozen
> > reinstalls in the past few days.  The first time I installed every
> > package which looked remotely interesting, and in hindsight thought
> > that was stupid.  However, in a later install I installed *none* of
> > the packages, and immediately regretted that decision too.  I wanted
> > to create initial accounts with a bash shell, for instance, but that
> > doesn't work great if you didn't install bash.  And the first thing
> > after rebooting I ftp a tar-file of various scripts I'm used to using,
> > but some of them don't work because I don't have perl5 installed yet.

Create a port, and in it have dependencies to things like bash and perl5
.  then, when you've installed, just do

cd /usr/ports/misc
rsh remote zcat foo.tar.gz | tar -xf -
cd foo
make

and it should automagically make bash and perl5 and stuff for you, and
suchnot.

Is there some way to have packages/ports automake upon selection of an
option?  eg, if during the user creation utility, someone selects /bin/scsh,
then the scsh package is autoinstalled.
just to give the impression of a full system at start without having to
install everything :)

> Yes, many of us have tried and regretted those two extremes. I'd like
> to see bash pushed hard during installation. It's only small and makes
> everything a lot easier for those from a microsoft or Linux background.

bash is
A) huge
B) GPL.

I'd like to see zsh pushed for inclusion into the contrib tree; it's small,
beautiful, and inclusive (in that it understands a fair amount of csh as
well as sh syntax).


Ada.

-- 
"It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have 
 learned English -- up to fifty words used in correct context -- no human 
 being has been reported to have learned dolphinese."
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