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Date:      Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:19:23 -0500 (EST)
From:      Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.rg.iupui.edu>
To:        dap@damon.com, patrick@cre8tivegroup.com
Cc:        freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Sun Ports JDK to Linux
Message-ID:  <199811031719.MAA06700@aurora.rg.iupui.edu>

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> > Here's a note from JavaWorld:
> > 
> > In addition, Sun on Monday announced it will port the forthcoming Java
> > Development Kit (JDK) 1.2 to Linux, adding the free, open-source-code operating
> > system to such platforms as Hewlett-Packard's HP-UX and Sun's Solaris 7 for
> > optimized Java development and deployment.

to which Damon Permezel said:
> For this reason, and others, the next box I install is going to run
> linux.

Please remember that it is the policy of FreeBSD people to recommend
to vendors to port their software to Linux first. FreeBSD can
immediately use the stuff due to the flawless Linux binary
compatibility. It's more important to have some support for free
Unices than no support at all. So Linux is the first choice of many
and FreeBSD does recommend it. Once the source code is available, or
once the vendors became used to free Unices, we can have native ports
for FreeBSD.

But we should definitely not draw your conclusion from this: that
everyone should consider using Linux instead. Thinking that way gives
in to the same pattern of thinking that people must use Microsoft and
Windows NT, because it's what everyone does. The world of Unix should
be proud of the diversity and the compatibility that still exists!
Everyone moaning about Unix incompatibilities should think whether
there is any other OS platform that is any better compatible accross
such a variety of vendors and machines. Unix is unique in
compatibility. The variety is good.

We should be very, very careful about our wishes for seamless binary
compatibility. Remember viruses? This plague exists in the Windows
world just *because* everything is so smoothly binary compatible. The
Internet worm could spread on only two brands of machines and OSes and
that's the same reason why viruses never became a real issue in the
Unix world.

So don't give up on FreeBSD. The power of FreeBSD is its tradition and
the conservative development strategy (e.g., I am glad that I was
never beaten over the head with ELF stuff: I can happily run six
different machines with six different versions of FreeBSD.) I can
trust my network code and I trust the security of FreeBSD. Conversely
I have had lots of headache with porting source code to different
Linux variants and I have seen very strange telnet behavior on Linux
(one session being accidentially redirected to another terminal.) Sure
that was several years back, but FreeBSD people didn't sleep during
that time either. I am very comfortable with FreeBSD. Unfortunately I
had to drop out the active FreeBSD support shortly before 386/BSD
(patchkit) became FreeBSD. Because I know what it takes, I thank the
development team of FreeBSD and all helpers for doing such a great
job, and this is the reason why I stick to FreeBSD (solidarity -- one
of the recently forgotten words). Reliability and continuity are the
qualities of FreeBSD and the reason why I trust this OS more than any
other.

sorry, I should have directed this to >/tmp/advocacy

never mind,
-Gunther

Gunther Schadow ----------------------------------- http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu
Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
1001 W 10th Street RG5, Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960
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