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Date:      Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:54:25 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        dyson@iquest.net
Cc:        wes@softweyr.com, tlambert@primenet.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: System V init (was: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD?)
Message-ID:  <19981130105425.C831@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199811300016.TAA01844@y.dyson.net>; from John S. Dyson on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:16:40PM -0500
References:  <19981130080037.A423@freebie.lemis.com> <199811300016.TAA01844@y.dyson.net>

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On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 19:16:40 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote:
> Greg Lehey said:
>>>
>>> Add additional packages, and see that BSD init ends up more
>>> and more inadequate.
>>
>> I still don't see why.  We have a method to run application startup
>> and shutdown scripts already.  Could you be more specific?
>
> Startup your network

We do that already.

> or database with init?

Why not?

>>>>> SysV init has an established set of standards for usage of
>>>>> startup/shutdown files.  It doesn't solve ALL problems, but moves
>>>>> forward, other than just staying idle.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but as I said, that's all a question of scripts.
>>>
>>> Also, it is all a question of C-code,
>>
>> Where?
>
> SYSV-like init are available .

Ah, that's what you mean.  My question was more ``what does it take to
do this?''.

>>> but a framework enables better organization.  However SYSV-init is
>>> implemented, vendors do use it.
>>
>> I suppose there's one point there.  But the only difference for
>> installing under FreeBSD would be the name of the startup file.
>
> The more your system is nonstandard, the more it will be considered
> to be nonstandard.

Fine, once we've defined ``standard''.

Greg
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