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Date:      Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:05:56 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        dillon@apollo.backplane.com
Cc:        grog@lemis.com, donegan@quick.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sendmail throughput (was: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required.)
Message-ID:  <199901010205.SAA19303@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <199901010122.RAA05674@apollo.backplane.com> (message from Matthew Dillon on Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:22:22 -0800 (PST))
References:   <199901010122.RAA05674@apollo.backplane.com>

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> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:22:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
> 
>     This is not a good argument for replacing sendmail, considering the fact
>     that 100,000 messages an hour is sufficient to handle the needs of a
>     userbase of 100,000 users or more.

      1 message per user per hour.

      please read the paper.  rob kolstad wrote it after contending
      with mail lists that we taking hours to deliver a single message
      to all the subscribers.  

      FreeBSD mail list subscribers seem to want instantaneous
      delivery...sometimes 30 minutes is just too long for some
      poeple ;)  postfix delivers the mail to more people faster.
      thats what they awnt.  that make me happy ;)  and the queue
      directories are smaller (without loading up the queues on the
      mail-relays...thats just shifting the problem elsewhere and
      hiding it so i cant tell if there is a big backlog or not.)
      with postfix hte need for the mail-relays has decreased
      dramtically.

>     BEST has two incoming mail servers, running sendmail, to support it's
>     30,000+ users and the mail rate is only 150 messages a minute (per server)
>     at peak.
> 
>     BEST's outgoing mailing lists machine is our busiest mail box.  The 
>     outgoing mail rate, doing the mailing lists for all best users (a few
>     thousand mailing lists) is, at peak, around 1000 messages a minute at 
>     peak (around 60,000 an hour).

      current has 1411 subscribers.  each wonts to get the message
      first!  if we do 100 messages a day that's only 141,100
      messages, nothing....but to deliver them all in 3 minutes boosts
      the effective rate to 2.8 million message per hour.

      i am not saying that postfix is delivering that rate.  the
      closer the better.

      hub is currently delivering ~100k messages per hour (400 - 430
      in 15 seconds reporting periods) for the last 75 seconds.  then
      it drops to nearly nothing.  that message has made it out.  i
      would have preferred to do it in 15 seconds.  that was just one
      message

jmb

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