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Date:      Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:34:32 -0800
From:      "Reginald S. Perry" <perry@zso.dec.com>
To:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
Cc:        Andrew Gordon <arg@arg1.demon.co.uk>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Subject:   Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system 
Message-ID:  <199901260734.XAA28740@yakko.zso.dec.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>  of "Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:46:18 %2B0100." <XFMail.990126074618.asmodai@wxs.nl> 

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I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5
running. I may have exacerbated it when I installed the linux
realplayer and macromedia flash plugins. 

I would like to have a methodology to help debug this, but I have just 
this one system to use as the debug system. I do also have a vt220
which I could set up if that would help.

The key here is that for me it locks the system up completely. I
cannot telnet in remotely and the ctrl-alt-esc key sequence does not
work so its unclear to me how to debug this. Tell me what I would need 
to help debug it, and I will try to be of some help. Ill attach my
dmesg output.

-Reggie

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FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jan 17 09:52:17 PST 1999
    root@trane.lambdawerks.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/TRANE
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x543  Stepping=3
  Features=0x8003bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC,MMX>
real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
config> pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388
config> pnp 1 1 os disable
config> pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20
config> pnp 1 3 os disable
config> quit
avail memory = 127401984 (124416K bytes)
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard
 cpu0 (BSP): apic id:  0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000
 cpu1 (AP):  apic id:  1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000
 io0 (APIC): apic id:  2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02f3000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/kernel.config" at 0xf02f309c.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82439> rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
vga0: <Matrox MGA 2164W graphics accelerator> rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci0.18.0
bt0: <Buslogic Multi-Master SCSI Host Adapter> rev 0x08 int a irq 17 on pci0.19.0
bt0: BT-958 FW Rev. 5.06I Ultra Wide SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 192 CCBs
fxp0: <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 0x02 int a irq 16 on pci0.20.0
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:90:bb:52
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL009e [0x9e008c0e] Serial 0x0d9191f1 Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041]
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 irq 12 on isa
psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 not found at 0x1f0
wdc1 not found at 0x170
bt: unit number (1) too high
bt1 not found at 0x330
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.16> 
sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.16> 
sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster MPU-401> 
opl0 at 0x388 on isa
snd0: <Yamaha OPL3 FM> 
awe0 at 0x620 on isa
awe0: <SoundBlaster EMU8000 MIDI (RAM4096k)>
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery
APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2
Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
sa0 at bt0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
sa0: <HP C1533A 9608> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8)
da0 at bt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <IBM DCAS-34330W   !# S65A> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C)
da1 at bt0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da1: <IBM DCAS-34330W   !# S65A> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da1: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C)
changing root device to da0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
vinum: loaded
cd0 at bt0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
cd0: <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5701TA 0167> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8)
cd0: cd present [296322 x 2048 byte records]
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates



>"Asmodai" == Asmodai  <Jeroen> writes:

> On 26-Jan-99 Andrew Gordon wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthew
> Dillon wrote:
>> :One variable may be available memory.  On my system, with default
>> :datasize
>> :limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently.
> With
>>
>> I've been using netscape on a 24bit color system for well over a
>> year and have never had a serious memory leak problem or X
>> session ( or machine ) crashing due to it.  I don't leave the
>> netscape window open all the time, though... I tend to exit
>> out of it when I'm not using it.

> This would indicate that it might have to do then with prolonged
> exposure to memory and the memory-system(s) (swap, paging). Is there
> anyway to monitor the syscalls and the amount of memory used and
> released by each call Matt? Hope ye see where I'm getting at...

> 1) I'm not sure I would necesarily accuse Netscape of having a leak:
>    what with caching pages in RAM and the allocation policy of whatever
>    malloc they use, maybe it really needs this much and would stabilise
>    at some size of 100M+ - I just don't have the swap space to find out.

> Yer kidding right? A program that _needs_ 100 MB or more? Surely yer
> kidding... I haven't seen a program in normal corporate/home use
> that justifies the memory usage of 100 MB or more including
> NetScape's Navigator/Communicator.
 
> 2) I have never seen a system crash as such.  However, having the X
> server killed due to out-of-swap leaves the console fouled up and so
> could easily be mis-described as a crash.

> I wonder if X could be the originator of the problems, my guess is
> it can't since Linux uses the same X and I haven't heard any
> complaints from that corner.

> Also it's nice that the program dumps core, but afaik without debug
> symbols it's not much use.

> --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven It's a Dance of Energy,
> asmodai(at)wxs.nl when the Mind goes Binary...  Network/Security
> Specialist <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>; BSD & picoBSD: The Power to
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