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Date:      Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
From:      asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami)
To:        ken@plutotech.com
Cc:        scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: timed out while idle?
Message-ID:  <199904140154.SAA53879@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199904140122.TAA06901@panzer.plutotech.com> (ken@plutotech.com)
References:   <199904140122.TAA06901@panzer.plutotech.com>

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 * From: "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@plutotech.com>

 * The reason the timeout is as high is it is now is because of some devices
 * (zip drives?) that spin down their media and then spin back up when they
 * get a command.
 * 
 * It takes them a little bit to spin up, so that's why the timeout is as long
 * as it is.

I see.

 * As far as figuring out whether something came back between 15 and 60
 * seconds, probably the only way to do that would be to timestamp each CCB as
 * it is sent down to the controller.  It can be done, but is it really worth
 * it?

No, I was just curious if I can know if it's safe to shorten in on our
site.  I guess I can just try and see.

 * If it is still responding.  In most cases that I've seen a BDR will cause
 * the drive to wake up and start functioning again.

Sorry, I meant by analyzing the logs.  I guess I don't know what
happened if I just see a "timed out while idle" followed by a
crash....

Speaking of which (gosh, you should hate this), I have another
question.  When CAM invalidates a pack, is there some way to get it
back short of rebooting?  I tried "camcontrol rescan" which does seem
to find it (judging from "camcontrol devlist") but I still can't
access it ("device not configured").

 * That'll be more helpful.  At least you'll be able to (hopefully) see exactly
 * which line caused the panic.

Ok.

Satoshi


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