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Date:      Wed, 5 May 1999 11:42:35 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
Cc:        Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.org>, Guy Helmer <ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov>, "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@plutotech.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Informing MAINTAINER (was: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/mt mt.1)
Message-ID:  <19990505114235.X40359@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9905041522070.14744-100000@feral.com>; from Matt Jacob on Tue, May 04, 1999 at 03:25:53PM -0700
References:  <19990504232121.C49159@bitbox.follo.net> <Pine.LNX.4.04.9905041522070.14744-100000@feral.com>

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On Tuesday,  4 May 1999 at 15:25:53 -0700, Matt Jacob wrote:
>> On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 12:11:36PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote:
>>> To follow up on this for the rest of CVS committers- What I see a lot of
>>> in FreeBSD commits is changes w/o checking with nominal last authors of
>>> code (and man pages are code). If it isn't that hard to do, can we please
>>> check with each other- even on trivial things- it's not *that* much extra
>>> email.
>>
>> The problem isn't the amount of e-mail you have to send out.  The
>> problem is that a lot of people don't bother/remember to reply, which
>> means you have to keep track of a million changes (with PR numbers etc
>> if applicable) over a period of time, instead of being able to handle
>> the case at once.  You can't even rely on e-mail on the subject coming
>> back as a way of finding out when to handle it.
>
> Send the email. Wait a reasonable period of time (fudge factor- 10 line
> change == 10 minute, 100 line change == 100 minutes, 1000 line change ==
> overnight) and then make the change. The point here is to allow a nominal
> maintainer a look- if they're not paying attention, that's not your fault.
> Increasing useful communications is good.

I agree in principle, but not in detail.  10 minutes is never
reasonable when you consider that the nominal maintainer may be asleep
at the time, and that's relatively common when you consider that you,
Eivind and I live in time zones approximately 8 hours apart.  I'd
think that a minimum of 24 hours should be reasonable unless the
change is urgent.

Greg
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