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Date:      Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:38:22 +0100
From:      Steve Darrall <steve@haagen-dazs.org>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Linux install 
Message-ID:  <19990906213829.A903E15584@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Sep 1999 17:06:46 EDT." <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909061702460.40981-100000@picnic.mat.net> 

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FreeBSD is a "programmer's system"? Errr I wish someone had told me...

I use it for word processing, scanning, artwork, and 0.0001% programming (OK, 
75% IRC ;) ).

I have a couple of perl scripts to sort my MP3s out, but that's about it as far
as programming goes.

Why categorise FreeBSD as a "programmer's system"? Its *MUCH* more versatile 
than that. Maybe I'm just weird for wanting to use a hardcore *NIX OS that runs 
a number of high-profile sites on the 'net as a desktop OS in favour of windows.

OK, so FreeBSD takes a bit of getting used to after years if Windows, but with a
bit of effort you can get there in the end. Maybe writing macros for vim to make
it more like Ultraedit isn't being as 'pure' as some people would like, but if I
don't like it, I change it...its the nature of the beast. (If anyone can give 
me some help with opening from/saving to FTP in vim I wouldn't say no ;) )

Maybe the developers see people like me as 'leeching' their work. If they do, 
then I'm sorry, but I'm no programmer, if I could contribure then I would. I 
guess the only contribution I can make is to say thanks to the thousands of 
people out there helping the Open Source movement (no matter what the OS may be)
by developing the utilities/apps the people on this list along with countless 
others use every day.

Hrmmm this is starting to ramble so maybe I should quit while I'm ahead. I guess
what I'm trying to say is don't pigeon-hole any OS. Particularly one that can be
whatever you want it to be.

I realise that your mail was mainly saying how easy FreeBSD is to install 
compared to Linux. But why try anything else in the first place?

Steve

Your message dated: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 17:06:46 EDT
>I just had to go help a friend install a Linux system.  He's a true
>newbie, and it doesn't look like he's headed towards programming, so
>when I couldn't talk him out of leaving Windows (which he's pretty good
>at), I figured Linux is probably more friendly, and shoved him towards
>RedHat.  I didn't want him complining that I had him on what I think of
>as a programmer's system (FreeBSD, of course).
>
>Heck with that, it's the last time I try Linux.  Their install is
>nowhere near as easy as FreeBSD's, at least to him and I.  From what I
>can tell, they don't even have usermode ppp at all, and getting their
>kernel mode ppp working hasn't been fun.


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