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Date:      Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:50:42 +0200
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
To:        David Wolfskill <dhw@whistle.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net
Subject:   Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups 
Message-ID:  <199909241550.RAA91996@gratis.grondar.za>

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> About the only positive thing I have to say about the DUL is that Vix
> stated that entries are placed on it at the request of the custodians of
> the netblock in question.

This is a very positive thing about the DUL; ISP co-operation.
This implies that said ISP's are also prepared to provide an
alternative method of mail delivery.

I have some experience (from anti-spam mailing lists) of ISP's who
are quite prepared to open port 25 for customers who ask. This is
very good; SMTP has no authentication at all, and it is this
"free-for-all" feature that spammers abuse. However - with a view
to keeping the "open internet culture" going, it is delightful that
said ISP's will allow outgoing SMTP provided the user "pre-agrees"
that they will not abuse the privelige. This reduces the ISP's
effort, keeping costs down, and is instrumental in huge spam
"trappage".

M
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Mark Murray
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