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Date:      Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
To:        dave@allunix.com
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Roasting Newbies
Message-ID:  <199910072120.RAA25826@blackhelicopters.org>
In-Reply-To: <199910071346.NAA19666@web1.aps-services.com> from "dave@allunix.com" at "Oct 7, 1999  1:50:28 pm"

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IMHO, tensions on the FreeBSD lists are running at their greatest
level since... oh, I'd say mid-96, when I first subscribed to
-questions.

If a "FreeBSD newbies info page" will help, then I'm all for it.  I
don't see what sort of "ramifications" it could have, other than to
(perhaps) reduce some of the stress all around.

Everybody needs to take a chill pill.  Perhaps this will help.  If so,
everybody wins.  If not, the next person with a bright idea can try.

As far as products like VMware go: the big market for FreeBSD is on
the server end.  That's where we've been for years.  There's really
very little desktop BSD, where VMWare's marketed.  Why should a
desktop software manufacturer port to a server OS?  Besides, as you
say, we're fairly close to being able to run VMWare for Linux
ourselves.

==ml

> Mr. Lucas,
> 
> I think that you should concider the ramifications of posting that 
> particular how to doc on the web. 
> 
> After all why should the FreeBSD community be bothered by people 
> who are not intelligent enough to make sure that they are posting to 
> the right thread?
> 
> Do we really care that companies like VMWare have no intention of 
> porting their commercial software to FreeBSD? After all it is fairly 
> easy to add that linux kernel to the BTX loader. 
> 
> I had the audacity to reply to a recent posting on stable in which I 
> stated that the disks which were shipped to me from Walnut Creek 
> were not bootable and that this might be related to the problems with 
> the iso image. Of course I was promptly flamed. One reader even 
> accused me of trying to install the alpha port on my i386 box.
> 
> I do appreciate your noble efforts to help the people who, like myself 
> are not FreeBSD Guru's and could possibly get frustrated by the OS 
> by pointing them in the right direction instead of flaming them with 
> the famous but obscure "that is for questions"   
> 
>  
> 
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