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Date:      Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:32:23 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Ben Rosengart <ben@skunk.org>
Cc:        Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>, "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@TransSys.COM>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes )
Message-ID:  <199912141832.KAA22638@apollo.backplane.com>
References:   <Pine.BSF.4.21.9912141143590.76868-100000@penelope.skunk.org>

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:> > So how about /usr/sbin/chown -> /sbin/chown so that MAKEDEV works with
:> > just the root file system mounted?   
:> 
:> As one who just got his ass bitten by this, I would vote yes.
:
:As one who's missed chown at times when only root's mounted, I'm with Bill.
:
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: Ben Rosengart
:
:UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group
:StarMedia Network, Inc.

    I think at one time or another all of us have missed *something* in
    /usr that wasn't in /.  For example, disklabel -e doesn't work without
    vi -- which is in /usr.

    But if we go down that path we are going to wind up with *every* binary
    in /usr being moved to /, which is clearly wrong.

    Moving a well known, long-existing system binary is not something that
    should be undertaken lightly.  I will remind everyone that when
    sendmail was moved from /usr/libexec to /usr/sbin, it created 
    ramifications that didn't clear up for a year.  Sendmail's move could be
    justified, but I don't think chown's move can be -- certainly not on
    the basis of something as flimsy as MAKEDEV needing it!

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>


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