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Date:      Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:19:10 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@Denninger.Net>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ATAPI tape support - how to format?
Message-ID:  <19991217201910.A34455@Denninger.Net>
In-Reply-To: <19991218120832.A1108@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 12:08:32PM %2B1030
References:  <199912130738.IAA28004@freebsd.dk> <199912131731.KAA44607@harmony.village.org> <19991213192545.D636@yedi.iaf.nl> <19991213125520.A567@Denninger.Net> <19991218120832.A1108@freebie.lemis.com>

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C1533As, circa 1994.  I have two of them and they are still working.  They
were in use at an *ISP* as primary backup devices for more than two years
(read: had the shit beaten out of them nightly) until we outgrew them and 
went to Exabyte 8705s (which SUCKED reliability-wise, although they're better 
than the 8500s!).  The final step was to go to two DLT IIIXTs (after that 
I have no idea; I don't run the place anymore)

Their predecessors, two 35480As, were replaced ONLY for capacity reasons.
As far as I know *those* are still working (I know where one of them is and
its not broken)

I've never had trouble with HP DAT drives.  None whatsoever.

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On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 12:08:32PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Monday, 13 December 1999 at 12:55:20 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
> >
> > BTW, I have older HP DAT drives (4 & 8gb models) that have several YEARS
> > of active use on them, and other than using a cleaning tape when the front
> > panel "clean me" light flashes I've NEVER had ANY problem with them.
> 
> This is in stark contrast with my experience.  Which models?  The
> 35480A DDS-1 drives I had had a life of about 8 months with daily
> backups.
> 
> Greg 
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