Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:05:11 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>, Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org>, Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Correction of typo Message-ID: <20000314000511.B30738@mithrandr.moria.org> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000313143821.041e3750@localhost> References: <4.2.2.20000313135923.041e05e0@localhost> <4.2.2.20000313123947.041d46c0@localhost> <4.2.2.20000313112734.041d5670@localhost> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003131336470.94516-100000@sasami.jurai.net> <4.2.2.20000313123947.041d46c0@localhost> <4.2.2.20000313135923.041e05e0@localhost> <v04220815b4f30863d25f@[195.238.24.123]> <4.2.2.20000313142736.041d2c70@localhost> <20000313233307.A30738@mithrandr.moria.org> <4.2.2.20000313143821.041e3750@localhost>
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On Mon 2000-03-13 (14:42), Brett Glass wrote: > >Brett, kindly admit when you're wrong. > > > >FreeBSD, the project, generates packages. Those packages are put > >on the Walnut Creek CDROM set. It is _FreeBSD_ who generates those > >packages, and it is _not_ Walnut Creek who does so. > > The FreeBSD Project has no control over the development > of the packaged products, and hence their quality is not > and should not be reflected in the reputation of FreeBSD itself. > > The fact that these products appear on a CD-ROM bearing the name > FreeBSD does not make them the products of the FreeBSD Project, > any more than the fact that a package of Campbell's Soup > appears in my local Safeway supermarket makes it a Safeway > product. Now, don't take this personally, but you are going on a tangeant that has nothing to do with my original comment (which may, indeed been a tangeant on yours). I never said that your installer couldn't be a package. I never said your installer could be default. I never said anything, in fact, besides that it isn't _Walnut_Creek_ that creates the packages, but FreeBSD (and as such, Walnut Creek have every right to put it in their distribution without seeking specific permission for every package). Perhaps we misinterpreted each other, but that's all I was saying. You quite clearly said "which are generated completely independently", to which I replied "The packages are generated by the project". Also realize, of course, that the project doesn't have all that much control over sendmail, bind, gcc, and numerous other projects included in the source tree. However, by including the software in the source or ports tree, the project generates some end-product that they are producing. To use your example - some (mostly discount/bulk) stores produce "no-name" or shop-specific brands. They don't control the production of these, but they sell them. ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages-3-stable/apache_1.3.6.tgz is a product of the FreeBSD project, even if the pre-production work is developed by others. Safeway, at least here, does do this too. ;) Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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