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Date:      Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:37:27 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        john@brann.org (John Brann)
Cc:        jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org (J McKitrick), john@brann.org (John Brann), chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Wow, it has been a while
Message-ID:  <200003172137.OAA21560@usr02.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000317160515.A86674@freebie.brann.org> from "John Brann" at Mar 17, 2000 04:05:15 PM

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> The biggies for me (as an observer) are still the VM system and softupdates.  
> Admittedly that may not be recent in Internet Time (TM), but they represent
> significant achievements.
> 
> I watch the current- list and the process of re-engineering which has gone
> into the newbus effort, the PC-CARD work (and CAM before those) represents, to
> me, innovation of the most useful kind.  Is it ground-breaking in the way
> that a working PDA was when it appeared - a revolution in the way that we
> think about computing - no, but that's not what FreeBSD is for.
> 
> I'm sure Terry Lambert would fulminate about my choices, and call down the
> judgement of heaven on the lack of orthogonality in the file-system stacking
> layers, but he too, represents a source of innovative thinking (and fine
> email commentary) in FreeBSD.

Since my employer paid for the Soft Updates port, and since Soft
Updates was my suggestion on how to get rid of the heavy and
expensive UPS in the first generation product, and since I was
involved in the initial integration work, trouble shooting, etc.,
I'm unlikely to call down the Wrath Of God on you for soft updates.

That said, it could have been done somewhat differently, which would
have allowed exporting a transactioning interface to user space via
a stacking layer, and that would have been quite a coup for support
of databases which currently have to use raw partitions and do their
own transaction tracking on systems without one...

8-p

					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.


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