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Date:      Tue, 2 May 2000 02:49:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Derrick Baumer <bduk@earthlink.net>
To:        rjoseph@manatee.mammalia.org
Cc:        dhesi@rahul.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: stop complaining about x11 please (was: Re: Why does PORTS SUCK so BADLY!?)
Message-ID:  <200005020949.CAA18177@earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005011526360.6783-100000@manatee.mammalia.org> (message from R Joseph Wright on Mon, 1 May 2000 15:30:35 -0700 (PDT))

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> From: R Joseph Wright <rjoseph@manatee.mammalia.org>
> 
> On Mon, 1 May 2000, Rahul Dhesi wrote:
> 
> > Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com> writes:
> > 
> > I know that time is a luxury, which is why I have the 5-minute solution
> > for you and for every other ports mainteriner.
> > 
> > Add a section to the Makefile that goes something like this:
> > 
> >    ## DEPENDENCIES
> >    ## This ports depends on xxx, yyy, zzz.
> >    ## xxx is used for <purpose>.  It's not essential.  Default is off.
> >    ## To enable xxx, uncomment the next line.
> >    #<symbol> = <rhs>
> >    ## yyy is used for <purpose>.  This is quite important and should
> >    ## be left in.  However, the port will build without it.  Default is on.
> >    ## To disable yyy, comment out the next line.
> >    <symbol> = <rhs>
> >    ## zzz is essential and must not be removed.
> >    <symbol> = <rhs>
> >    ## END DEPENDENCIES
> 
> Even better, but more difficult to implement, would be a little ncurses
> dialog box that pops up after the person building the port enters
> "make".  Some ports already have this, offhand I can name ghostscript and   
> rsaref.  It makes things easier for the person who doesn't know they can
> alter the makefiles or doesn't feel comfortable doing so.

Yeah!  Or even *BETTER*, it could have a graphical dialog and you
could just press "next" and select a couple of radio buttons or such,
then hit "next" again, and when it's all done, just hit "finish"!
It could be completely SIMPLE!  Everything could be stored in a
central "registry" file - all of your preferences for every program,
all of the file locations and such, and the entire system would be
entirely, absolutely, automatically FOOLPROOF!  :)

If that sounds good to you, you've got the wrong operating system.
The reason I'm using FreeBSD is because I can crawl under the hood and
put it together myself.  Everybody is asking for mp3 players and games
and gimme this and why isn't that bell/whistle more pretty and I
really don't understand why you don't just reboot into the operating
system that gives you all of that?  It's funny how many people want to
be "alternative" but can't understand why the alternative isn't
identical to the original.

Go ahead and flame me.  I deserve it.  But tell me you don't see where
I'm coming from while you're at it and we'll *really* know who we're
dealing with.

---

Derrick Baumer


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