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Date:      Mon, 8 May 2000 12:34:23 +1200
From:      Joerg Micheel <joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 sa.4
Message-ID:  <20000508123423.C19372@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
In-Reply-To: <200005080023.SAA74329@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 06:23:45PM -0600
References:  <200005080002.RAA12447@mass.cdrom.com> <200005080023.SAA74329@harmony.village.org>

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On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 06:23:45PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <200005080002.RAA12447@mass.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes:
> : > In message <20000508085337.C61488@freebie.lemis.com> Greg Lehey writes:
> : > : FILES
> : > :      /dev/rmt*  Raw magnetic tape interface
> : > : 
> : > : There used to be a block interface for the 'mt' driver, so the drives
> : > : got names like /dev/mt8 and /dev/rmt8.  I think we need to get rid of
> : > : the 'r', like we did with disks.
> : > 
> : > No.  'r' means 'rewind' while 'nr' means no rewind.  The r's should
> : > stay.  I don't think that FreeBSD ever had a /dev/mt8, but I could be
> : > wrong about that.  I know I've always used /dev/rst0 or /dev/rsa0 for
> : > my backup needs.
> : 
> : That's what I thought too, but I think the historians have us outflanked 
> : on this one.  The only real issue now is POLA.
> 
> On the 4.2BSD vax we had back in school, it was /dev/rmt8 and
> /dev/nrmt8.  R stood for rewind, and has for a very long time.  The
> SunOS 3.5 machine behaved exactly the same way.

I think I'd still like to disagree. The case could perhaps be proven
by running a UNIX 7th edition and checking for the /dev/nmt0 device,
which is the non-rewind block tape device. I think it exists, anyone
there to prove it ?

	Joerg (thinking he should get is emulator fixed soon)
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