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Date:      Fri, 12 May 2000 00:58:06 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Ville-Pertti Keinonen <will@iki.fi>
Cc:        FengYue <fengyue@bluerose.windmoon.nu>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why this works?
Message-ID:  <20000512005806.A29302@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <864s84cq35.fsf@not.demophon.com>; from will@iki.fi on Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:09:02AM %2B0300
References:  <20000511210915.A38341@Hamilton-ppp44812.sympatico.ca> <Pine.BSF.4.10.10005111955220.29094-100000@bluerose.windmoon.nu> <864s84cq35.fsf@not.demophon.com>

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* Ville-Pertti Keinonen <will@iki.fi> [000511 22:49] wrote:
> 
> fengyue@bluerose.windmoon.nu (FengYue) writes:
> 
> > I've 3 small programs.  First one writes 4K of data contains 'A's into a
> > file /tmp/pagetest and then lseek() to the begin of the file.
> > Second one writes 4K of 'Z' into the same file /tmp/pagetest and
> > then lseek() to the begin of the file.  They both do that in a tight
> > loop.  Now, the third program reads 4K of data from /tmp/pagetest
> > and exit if the 4K data does not contain all 'A's nor 'Z's.  3 programs
> > run concurrently on the same machine (3.4).  No lock in the code whatsoever,
> > and all 3 programs use pure write() and read().  I thought the third
> > program would exit pretty quickly since the data in the file may contain
> > mixed of 'A's and 'Z's, but it has been running for hours and nothing
> > happened.  Could someone kindly explain this?  I was told that this is
> > because the pagesize is 4096 in the kernel, so that read()/write() 4K of
> > data will not get context switched until the call is compeleted.  
> > Is that right?
> 
> Not quite.  If FreeBSD didn't perform locking, operations affecting
> single filesystem blocks would probably be atomic (as long as the
> userland buffer is in memory).
> 
> However, FreeBSD does perform locking in read(2) and write(2) for
> local files, so your third program should never fail and exit.
> 
> Note that the system call interface does not guarantee reads or writes
> to be atomic, this just happens to be how it is implemented at the
> moment.

Afaik several Unix standards mandate this behavior, Linux doesn't
follow this standard though.

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
"I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."


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