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Date:      Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:23:22 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>
To:        parag@cgt.com (Parag Patel)
Cc:        robert@kudra.com (Robert Sexton), jonathan.laventhol@imagination.co.uk (Jonathan Laventhol), freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Cheap 1000Gbyte machine
Message-ID:  <200008182123.XAA80962@freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <3689.966632697@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> from Parag Patel at "Aug 18, 2000 02:04:57 pm"

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It seems Parag Patel wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:57:48 EDT, Robert Sexton wrote:
> >
> >Can IDE drives release the bus during seeks?  Historically thats been
> >the big advantage of SCSI: Two IDE drives are no faster than one IDE
> >drive, while SCSI scales in performance.
> 
> How about a single IDE (master) drive per controller, that is, no slave
> drives at all?  This would halve the number of available drives per card
> (or require twice the number of cards) but essentially would use the PCI
> bus as a multiplex bus between drives instead of SCSI.
> 
> You're still pretty much stuck waiting for one command to finish before
> another can be sent to a drive though, unlike SCSI drives.  Still a lot
> cheaper tho'.

Not really, if the ATA drives are configured as single masters, they can 
run simultaniously, but you will still have the PCI bus speed limit :)
Which BTW is around 120MB/s as some overhead goes to keep the system
running (yes I have measured that :) )

And if you have modern ATA disks, they support tagged queuing as well,
have had that running in my lab too...

> I suppose another trick would be to arrange your vinum partitions and
> drive layout so that master and slave drives are never accessed
> simultaneously so one won't block access to the other.

Endeed, that would be the easiest solution...

-Søren


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