Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:24:07 -0500 From: Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com> To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami <asami@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proposal: PORTREVISION and PORTEPOCH Message-ID: <20000828202407.N73638@radon.gryphonsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <vqc4s44oocq.fsf@bubble.hip.berkeley.edu>; from asami@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:19:48PM -0700 References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008200434470.24448-100000@freefall.freebsd.org> <vqc4s44oocq.fsf@bubble.hip.berkeley.edu>
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On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:19:48PM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote:
> I don't know about other shells, but bash seems to think ':' is a
> special character (it quotes ':' with a '\' when it does filename
> completion). It probably doesn't mean anything, but there's no need
> to take chances, can we use another symbol for delimiting
> ${PORTEPOCH}?
How about $ ? Hmm.. maybe not. What about ``.'' ?
> Yes, I think these two sound fine. However, I have a little concern,
> in that it will further fragment the /var/db/pkg directory and make it
> harder to people to manage it.
>
> For instance, when a port with a lot of dependents, say, jpeg-6b, is
> updated to jpeg-6b_1, the old dependency information will remain in
> /var/db/pkg/jpeg-6b/+REQUIRED_BY and be left behind when jpeg-6b_1 is
> installed, as there is no check for jpeg-6b when jpeg-6b_1 is added.
>
> This is of course not a problem of this proposal, just a manifest of
> an old problem that could be triggerred with having more different
> versions in the user's machine. I need someone to work with me on the
> pkg_* tools so we'll have better upgrade support, any takers?
Your "problem" is just a result of the historical incapability of pkg_*
to properly manage "upgrades". The PORTEPOCH/PORTREVISION thing will
help us improve them, not make it harder.
I'm currently working on a better mechanism (in fact I promised Kris that
I'd send an email about my proposal to -ports yesterday, but I've not
had time lately.. okay, I admit, I've been playing too much quakeworld
lately.. teehee.. i'll get around to finishing my proposal ;).
Eventually code will be available; I'd prefer to iron out the ideas at
this idea stage. My goal for implementing the new system is
mid-October, around BSDCon.
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