Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:30:35 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com> To: Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com> Cc: Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami <asami@FreeBSD.org>, Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/databases/p5-DBD-Pg Makefile ports/databases/p5-Pg Makefile ports/databases/pgaccess Makefile ports/databases/py-PyGreSQL Makefile Message-ID: <20000829123035.V33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> In-Reply-To: <20000829070649.A57347@titan.klemm.gtn.com>; from andreas@klemm.gtn.com on Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 07:06:49AM %2B0200 References: <vqcg0np40cp.fsf@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <20000828170216.G33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> <vqcya1h2g94.fsf@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <20000828190331.N33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> <vqczolxneoe.fsf@bubble.hip.berkeley.edu> <20000828200531.R33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> <vqcr978or91.fsf@bubble.hip.berkeley.edu> <20000828233902.U33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> <20000828224846.U47688@bsd.planetwe.com> <20000829070649.A57347@titan.klemm.gtn.com>
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On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 07:06:49AM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote:
> When you have parallel instances of a port, i.e.: two stable versions,
> then you need a postgresql and postgresql7.
There aren't parallel instances of a port in this case.
> If you have a developement version with a short live time, then
> you even don't need a repo copy and merge the version postgresql-devel
> into postgresql.
>
> But in this case it wasn't a developement version. Its simply another
> new mainstream version. And since we have no CVS branches in the ports
> collection, we have 2 ports.
>
> Look at all the netscape ports ... its the same situation there ...
There _are_ parallel instances of netscape. There _are_ parallel
instances of tcl* and tk*, there _are_ parallel instances of XFree86-[34].
See a pattern?
> Finally concerning your point, that its so much work to change the
> dependencies in N ports from postgresql to postgresql7.
> Excuse me. For what purpuse do we have port maintainers ?
> Isn't it their task to decide, if postgresql7 is mature enough,
> to change the port dependency ?
They have no choice, you ripped the underlying port from them.
If you imported the port that is now 'postgresql7' today fresh,
it would have been named 'postgresql'. We shouldn't let the fact
that we have a shitty version control system get in the way of that.
I care about the end product. When we ship FreeBSD, no-one cares
or even can see that there was a postgresql port and all the history,
they see the final product. Our focus should be on what the final
product is; if we can make our own development tools wrap around that,
I'm all for it, but in the end, its only what we ship that matters
to the end user.
--
Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc.
billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
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