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Date:      Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:56:05 -0600
From:      Gerd Knops <gerti@bitart.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot [not only laptop!]
Message-ID:  <20001120005607.11726.qmail@camelot.bitart.com>
In-Reply-To: <200011192205.eAJM5QG03609@billy-club.village.org>
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Just as a (possibly related) side note:

The 4.2 Beta CD does not boot on a system that has a MultiTech  
MT5634ZPX PCI (aka ActionTec 56k FAX PCI Modem) modem card (yes, that  
one has a controller and is supported by FreeBSD). Interestingly, once  
the system is installed, the card can be replaced and the system will  
boot using the generic kernel...

Gerd



Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <20001119042505.A7076@medianstrip.net> mike ryan writes:
> : in that case, is there anything those of us with affected hardware
> : can do to help diagnose this?
>
> Maybe.
>
> : for what it's worth, here's the behavior i'm seeing: on my vaio
> : z505hs with a ricoh rl5c475 pci-cardbus bridge, polling mode works
> : fine with the "plug & play o/s" bios option set to "yes".  when i
> : set that bios option to "no" (so usb works), the machine will
> : occasionally (but not always) hang on boot after the pccard0 probe,
> : with no cards inserted.  i haven't tried booting with cards
> : inserted.  when the machine boots successfully, it will always hang
> : on a card insertion.
>
> Odd, my always works in polling mode. I have the same bridge, but the
> PCG-505TS instead of the x505hs.
>
> The PnP "no" setting causes more of the devices to have interrupts
> assigned and routed. The "yes" setting doesn't. You are running into
> interrupt hell that has little to do with the actual card bus bridge
> and more to do with FreeBSD's inability to cope properly before
> -current of about BSDcon.
>
> : when a card insertion does freeze the machine, i can still drop to
> : ddb.  once in ddb, i can "next" a lot, and eventually ddb will
> : disappear, the machine will be unfrozen, the freshly inserted card
> : will probe and attach, and everything will continue normally except
> : that a random process will have died on SIGTRAP. same thing on card
> : removal. dropping to ddb and hitting "continue" doesn't work, only
> : "next". this seems odd.
>
> Where are you dropping into ddb at? That would be useful information.
>
> : at this point, i've got no idea how to proceed.  i'm willing to
> : perform experiments on request, though, if that would help...
>
> I'm not sure how much it would help.
>
> Warner
>
>
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