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Date:      Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:55:33 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation 
Message-ID:  <200012110555.WAA34071@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:39:51 MST." <14900.19591.200496.869754@nomad.yogotech.com> 
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In message <14900.19591.200496.869754@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes:
: I know that as recent as 3=4 years ago, Purify installed itself by
: default in /usr/local, on SunOS and Solaris.  Lucid did this as well,
: although things start getting pretty fuzzy going back that far. :)

purify and the binary distributions of xemacs installed themselves
into /usr/local on Solaris in the 1992-1996 time frame.  As did *ALL*
of the software binaries we downloaded from the net.  Framemaker
installed in /usr/local as well in the SunOS 3.5/4.0 time frame.
Interleaf installed itself in /usr/local on SunOS 4.0/4.1 time frame.

: > My claims about "history" and "tradition" are attempts to refute
: > Brandon's assertion that packages going into /usr/local has "years of
: > tradition behind it." Mostly, it's about what *packages* are, not what
: > /usr/local was used for.
: 
: I disagree.

I do too.

: Probably the same time-frame for SunOS, although I didn't have
: experience with it until the early 90's.  However, if necessary, I can
: try and dig out installation docs for some software which ask to have
: the stuff unpacked in /usr/local.

I still have some backup tapes of our main server from the 1992 time
frame that shows software packages from ISVs installed into
/usr/local/bin.

Warner


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