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Date:      Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:54:46 -0800 (PST)
From:      opentrax@email.com
To:        keichii@peorth.iteration.net
Cc:        roman@harmonic.co.il, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   OOPS.. (Re: MFC? src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and sound support)
Message-ID:  <200101151854.KAA00430@spammie.svbug.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010101133411.B51028@peorth.iteration.net>

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From my last post, Your right I was wrong.
I did say that... Can't read my own quote. :-)

On  1 Jan, Michael C . Wu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 12:09:30PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon scribbled:
> | On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 opentrax@email.com wrote:
> | > On 28 Dec, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> | > > Having been hit by this today, how about MFCing the following change?
> | > > 
> | > >   revision 1.289
> | > >   date: 2000/11/14 01:11:13;  author: jkh;  state: Exp;  lines: +4 -1
> | > >   In the year 2000, I think it's perfectly reasonable to include audio
> | > >   support by default in GENERIC.
> | > > 
> | > I can't answer for JKH or others but audio has had a history
> | > of problems, especially durning the boot-up probe stage.
> | > Problems such that it might lock up the machine under
> | > certain conditions. Perhaps this is the reason sound may
> | > never make it into GENERIC.
> 
> I do not recall ever having such trouble with newpcm, nor 
> has newpcm been troublesome for people.  If newpcm
> does not probe, the boot process continues on.  There is no 
> "probe problem."
> 
> JMJr: Stop spreading baseless, false information like this, please.
>
Baseless, my eye you pinhead.
Our company has been doing sound for over 10 years.
I've witnessed this lockup many times. So get off it. :-)
  
> | Yes, I really hope that it doesn't make it into the GENERIC.
> | GENERIC kernel should provide fully functional and stable machine without
> | bells and whistles. Sound is a luxury.
> 
> "Fully functional" for a desktop implies a working sound card too.
> This is one of of those things that does not really matter very much.
> A good server admin will recompile and customize his kernel.  
> And a desktop user probably does not know how to compile a kernel.
> Are you telling me that, in your consultancy, you just keep GENERIC?
> 
> There is no need for this bikeshed.  Whether pcm is included in GEERIC 
> or not does not really hurt anybody either way.
> 
Someone suggested that it go into KLM. That's a good suggestion.

				Jessem.





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