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Date:      Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:03:38 -0500
From:      "John W. De Boskey" <jwd@bsdwins.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Valentin Nechayev <netch@carrier.kiev.ua>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall Makefile
Message-ID:  <20010121210338.A4447@bsdwins.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010119052823.A7240@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 05:28:23AM -0800
References:  <200101191301.PAQ80768@burka.carrier.kiev.ua> <xzp8zo71y0r.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20010119052823.A7240@fw.wintelcom.net>

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A few comments below..

----- Alfred Perlstein's Original Message -----
> * Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> [010119 05:18] wrote:
> > netch@carrier.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev) writes:
> > > sysinstall is extremely valuable to fix system in cases when it is damaged.
> > 
> > Not really. Except for beginning users, I don't see a use for
> > sysinstall once installation is complete.
> 
> I usually try to be manly and use fdisk+disklabel+newfs to setup
> a new disk, lately I've been more successful at it, but it sure is
> a lot less fun that just getting it done in under a minute with
> sysinstall.

   I almost never use sysinstall...

   fdisk is simple to use.

   newfs is simply to use.

   disklabel is a pain if you want to break a disk up into more than
two partitions (at least for me).

   Given that the label editor seems to really be in question here,
what if we allowed a form similar to the following:

#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:     512m        0    4.2BSD     1024  8192    16   #
  b:     512m   524288      swap                        #
  c:  4192902        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 260*)
  e:       1g        0    4.2BSD     1024  8192    16   #
  f:       -1        0    4.2BSD     1024  8192    16   #


   Where we auto calculate offsets, and the size of the partition with
size -1 is the 'rest' of the disk? Except for the interactiveness of
sysinstall, it's basically what sysinstall is doing.

   Also, the info in the handbook is rather small... A nice webpage
with good examples would be worth many hours of email discussion over
what the best way to do this interactively is.

> It's too bad that sysinstall's diskeditor isn't a standalone program.

-John


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