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Date:      Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:49:13 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
To:        Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: soft updates performance
Message-ID:  <200102130149.f1D1nDr66705@earth.backplane.com>
References:  <E14RurO-0000Zl-00@cs.huji.ac.il> <xzp7l2wc6v6.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20010213095300.D2178@wantadilla.lemis.com> <xzp3ddjpjlk.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <200102122343.f1CNhd053320@earth.backplane.com> <3A887EB3.6BDD7648@urx.com>

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:Thunderbird 900, with 256 MB of PC-133 memory, and using 3 - ATA-66
:HD's on different controllers. The elapsed time dropped from 58:16 to
:45:54 by using softupdates.
:
:Kent

    That sounds about right for -pipe.  The original email was
    1 hour vs 40 minutes, a 20 minute difference which seemed a bit
    high (what I would expect without -pipe).  46 minutes verses 58 minutes
    is only a 12 minute 20 second difference, which is more inline with what
    I would expect.

    Most of the savings is occuring during the dependancy and
    cleaning step(s).  The system creates and deletes a huge
    number of files in a huge number of directories and softupdates
    really helps there.

    Softupdates is not helping much during the actual compilation,
    which is a cpu-bound step if you use -pipe (the creation of the
    object files costs nothing because there is no other disk activity
    going on).

    The buildworld hits various choke points -- even with -j 128, if
    there are only 30 files in a library you will generally only see
    30 compiles going at once.  The final library link stage chokes
    it down to one process and this will become a pure bandwidth issue
    for your disk subsystem for a second or so (for the larger libraries).

					-Matt



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