Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:40:43 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> Cc: nbm@freebsd.org, Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Summary of List of things to move from main tree to ports Message-ID: <20010218154043.A37703@mollari.cthul.hu> In-Reply-To: <3A900185.54C97B10@softweyr.com>; from wes@softweyr.com on Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 10:08:21AM -0700 References: <3A8E47DC.FAF7F962@elischer.org> <200102181155.f1IBt7957868@gratis.grondar.za> <3A900185.54C97B10@softweyr.com>
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--ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 10:08:21AM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > Mark Murray wrote: > >=20 > > > I remember how ill I felt the first time I encountered a Unix system = with > > > no C compiler... > >=20 > > The idea here not not "no C Compiler" or in fact "no _anything_". Those > > are release-engineer policy decisions today, and customer choices > > tomorrow. > >=20 > > _That_ is the point. >=20 > Right. For instance, why would you want to cram a C compiler on a flash- > based firewall? Or even a disk-based one? One way to go about this might be to maintain dependency information between various binaries or groups of binaries and enforce this as a graph relationship which provides a consistent system with various features. This ties in with the NetBSD graph-based /etc/rc mechanism which Neil Blaker-Milner has been working on. Neil, what's the status of that anyway? For example, a standalone system which is not internet-connected wouldn't need to install the "network utilities" (telnet, ssh, ftp) or the "network services" (inetd, sshd, ...). It would be tricky (perhaps just time-consuming) to get the dependencies right on the level of individual binaries, but you could imagine the management system allowing selection/deselection of individual elements of a set as well. Kris --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6kF17Wry0BWjoQKURAhs/AKCvSZq1nvdawwDkCco23AKov4+nUACePszq JKOQESSpJdbh2Jz8wKMi8cE= =NoTL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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