Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:48:45 -0500 From: Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu> To: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com> Cc: scanner@jurai.net, mjacob@feral.com, Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel driver doc's Take 2. Message-ID: <20010324144844.K5821@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010324142928.03a8b9d0@mail.etinc.com>; from dennis@etinc.com on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:49:14PM -0500 References: <200103241731.SAA49447@info.iet.unipi.it> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103241319260.11101-100000@sasami.jurai.net> <5.0.0.25.0.20010324142928.03a8b9d0@mail.etinc.com>
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--3JWHCGIvlHPlU6rB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:49:14PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > You use the term "our developers" as if you are some sort of closed cult. They have something in common, and it's not a cult. It's called being an "open source developer". > I have NEVER complained about Intel not releasing full information on=20 > their boards.That whining has come exclusively from hackers that didnt fe= el=20 > like doing the work. I complained about FreeBSD having a "maintainer" for= a=20 > very important driver who didnt do any maintaining. I fixed the persisten= t=20 > PHY problem in an afternoon with info from the available linux driver=20 > supplied by intel. You dont need to get intel to change its policy to=20 > support the board. Its just an excuse to not do it. There are plenty of= =20 > resources available. Not in terms of time. BSD developers prefer to spend their time on opensource code that's done the right way. Hence the quality of FreeBSD. I'm sure you knew that already, since you're supporting this in ETInc's products. > If the if_wx driver sucks, why not fix it rather than trying to coerce a= =20 > mega-companies with a deep political structure to change is policies? But= =20 > if youre not going to maintain it, dont do it at all. You cant stick it t= o=20 > users by deciding later that you dont want to support it anymore. You can't "fix" a device driver "correctly" when you don't have the right docs. > I complained for days and then fixed the fxp driver in about 4 hours. May= be=20 > its time to do work and complain less. Uh bro, if you have patches, submit them! That's what opensource is all about... of course you knew that too. :) --=20 wca --3JWHCGIvlHPlU6rB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6vPocF47idPgWcsURAowaAJ4+pmEWtgUjtUCxY62tKDdIIGFEQQCgkOwz lVsYXV7APMOgHaXVasmA7BQ= =sAgo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3JWHCGIvlHPlU6rB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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