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Date:      Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:46:44 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SSHD Problems...
Message-ID:  <20010404044643.A60142@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <000801c0bcc7$921a8820$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 10:24:50PM -0700
References:  <3AC9E1F9.E27008E0@magpage.com> <000801c0bcc7$921a8820$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>

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On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 10:24:50PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Hmmmm....   any way to fix this _other_ than going _further_
> down the PAM road?  Like - maybe SHUT IT OFF?!?!?!
> 
> Not all of us want or need the latest
> doo-dad or dingle-hopper module that someone has suddenly
> decided is a "must have" for FreeBSD.

Don't upgrade, then.  You'll be troubled by no nasty new features.
Who has the gun to your head?

> Frankly I'm starting to get a bit sick of it.  Adding sshd
> in as an option was very pleasant.  _mandating_ it by putting
> it in the startup so that keys are generated during installation
> was not so pleasant, but I decided to let it slide.  Switching

ssh keys are only generated if you enable sshd in your rc.conf.
Simply turn it off if you don't want it.

> Kerberos default from off to _on_ as an installation option is the action of
> an asshole who thinks they know how to set up my server better than
> I do.

This was an inadvertant bug.

> So, what's the next on the "we're gonna ram this new option down
> your fucking throat and make you go through hoops to turn it off
> despite the fact only a few obnoxious people are screaming for it"
> campaign for FreeBSD?  I know, let's switch off root logins on the
> console so that if you want to ever login as root you have to bring
> up the system as single-user mode.  Hey, that's insecure - let's
> switch off ALL logins!  That's it - the ultimate FreeBSD
> installation - out of the box it simply cannot be accessed at
> all!!!!!!

You need to 1) take a couple of sedatives and 2) go and have a good
lie down.  This level of incoherent ranting serves no purpose, and
your problems were basically caused by your own inability to follow
well-publicized directions.

Kris

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